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About 4 Temperaments

So you acquiescence to systemic methods in which to discern your "personality type." You wonder what basis this system sought to demonstrate, by showing the value of these types? So why not look? Which temperament do you belong too?

Idealist Portrait of the Counselor (INFJ)

Counselors have an exceptionally strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others, and find great personal fulfillment interacting with people, nurturing their personal development, guiding them to realize their human potential. Although they are happy working at jobs (such as writing) that require solitude and close attention, Counselors do quite well with individuals or groups of people, provided that the personal interactions are not superficial, and that they find some quiet, private time every now and then to recharge their batteries. Counselors are both kind and positive in their handling of others; they are great listeners and seem naturally interested in helping people with their personal problems. Not usually visible leaders, Counselors prefer to work intensely with those close to them, especially on a one-to-one basis, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes.

ounselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population, and can be hard to get to know, since they tend not to share their innermost thoughts or their powerful emotional reactions except with their loved ones. They are highly private people, with an unusually rich, complicated inner life. Friends or colleagues who have known them for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that Counselors are flighty or scattered; they value their integrity a great deal, but they have mysterious, intricately woven personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors tend to work effectively in organizations. They value staff harmony and make every effort to help an organization run smoothly and pleasantly. They understand and use human systems creatively, and are good at consulting and cooperating with others. As employees or employers, Counselors are concerned with people's feelings and are able to act as a barometer of the feelings within the organization.

Blessed with vivid imaginations, Counselors are often seen as the most poetical of all the types, and in fact they use a lot of poetic imagery in their everyday language. Their great talent for language-both written and spoken-is usually directed toward communicating with people in a personalized way. Counselors are highly intuitive and can recognize another's emotions or intentions - good or evil - even before that person is aware of them. Counselors themselves can seldom tell how they came to read others' feelings so keenly. This extreme sensitivity to others could very well be the basis of the Counselor's remarkable ability to experience a whole array of psychic phenomena.

When you "discover a symbol" as indicated in the wholeness definition presented below, you get to understand how far back we can go in our discoveries. While I talk of Mandalas, I do for a reason. While I talk of the inherent nature of "this pattern" at the very essence of one's being, this then lead me to consider the mathematical relations and geometries that become descriptive of what we may find in nature with regards to the geometric inclinations to a beginning to our universe? How nice?

Wholeness. A state in which consciousness and the unconscious work together in harmony. (See also self.)

Although "wholeness" seems at first sight to be nothing but an abstract idea (like anima and animus), it is nevertheless empirical in so far as it is anticipated by the psyche in the form of spontaneous or autonomous symbols. These are the quaternity or mandala symbols, which occur not only in the dreams of modern people who have never heard of them, but are widely disseminated in the historical records of many peoples and many epochs. Their significance as symbols of unity and totality is amply confirmed by history as well as by empirical psychology.[The Self," ibid., par. 59.]

Update:

See:Expressions of Compartmentalization

The Making of the Tablet of Life

Change your thoughts and you change your world.
Norman Vincent Peale

Simple frame of reference in the quote supplied above?


The Circle: Paradox and Paradigm by Reza Sarhangi & Bruce D. Martin

Abstract

The ultimate desire of mankind is to identify wholeness, to grasp the essence of being, to be integrated with the harmony, perfection, patterns, and cycles of the material, metaphorical and metaphysical worlds. This desire motivates us to explore the realms of fact and fancy, logic and metaphor, reason and emotion, to capture the whole of being in one part, to see it, hear it, feel it, and enjoy it in everyday life.

The circle is an object of nature, an idealization of pure mathematics, and a symbol or framework we use to understand and describe our world. The circle exists independently of human thought, as ripples in a pond, or the appearance of the sun and moon, or the shape of the iris of an eye. In mathematics, we choose to define a circle as the places at a constant distance from a center, usually in two dimensions. In this article, we look back at world history and the varied uses of the circle: literal and literary, physical and poetical, mathematical, metaphorical and mystical.

The two following diagrams are from site above.


The Mahakala Gonpo-Magpo chakra mandala, by A. T. Mann.

The Buddhist circular mandala designs have been used continuously for millennia. "A mandala (Sanskrit for "circle") is a symbolic diagram of the universe, arranged in circles, used in tantric Buddhism. The Swiss psychologist Carl Jung considered the mandala to be a universally occurring pattern associated with the mythological representation of the self

Jay Kappraf, Connections: the geometric bridge between art and science, McGraw-Hill, 1991, pp. 172-173.

The following is a little bit of a fictional story about what happens in the the making of this Tablet, can become significant "for the life" as we have come to venture forward, lists some of the attributes of what exists, and what is written for each and very soul respectively?

Interior of the Pantheon, in Rome. The light comes from a circular
opening at the top of the sphere that is the building Mann, ibid., p. 43. Bruce Martin, 1994.

So deep, and searching for meaning, the nature of this tablet means that every geometrical written circle becomes the template, for what is to unfold in the future of that persons life, as well as, what the division of this circle represents, the quarterlies, allocates, and in rotation, the birth of this soul, to the accomplishment of the life, to mean on it's completion?

How vague indeed it is for the story teller, that artifacts in the history of our civilization is looked for, that it might have found uncovered in this "ancient place," the history of all souls, as well, the delving into the meaning of every life as it begins it's journey?

From whence, is such a expression sent, to its ray which "manifests in that light" could mean, that the elements in relation "gather around?" So while this element in relation, it is in the configuration space of our being, that "our colours are defined for us" as to the substance and nature of that circle? Inner/outer then, and how strange this world that it reflects all that has been harboured in the individuals nature.

Kaleidoscopic Pattern Metaphorically Used

The largeness of this apolytope looses the distinction of it's lines when it is displayed to largely?Garrett Lisi may have pinpointed aspect of this flower as he points to the petals? I had to look for how he descriptively displayed the pattern of those petals, as he choose to represent this expression as a "modality in perception."

"...underwriting the form languages of ever more domains of mathematics is a set of deep patterns which not only offer access to a kind of ideality that Plato claimed to see the universe as created with in the Timaeus; more than this, the realm of Platonic forms is itself subsumed in this new set of design elements-- and their most general instances are not the regular solids, but crystallographic reflection groups. You know, those things the non-professionals call . . . kaleidoscopes! * (In the next exciting episode, we'll see how Derrida claims mathematics is the key to freeing us from 'logocentrism'-- then ask him why, then, he jettisoned the deepest structures of mathematical patterning just to make his name...)

* H. S. M. Coxeter, Regular Polytopes (New York: Dover, 1973) is the great classic text by a great creative force in this beautiful area of geometry (A polytope is an n-dimensional analog of a polygon or polyhedron. Chapter V of this book is entitled 'The Kaleidoscope'....)"

I left a remark at Clifford's blog in relation to the flower, because it is very symbolic to me about what can emerge within context of our own consciousness. That it could encompass my whole life. I would not present this perspective if I did not realize there was a functioning pattern within myself that I identified through study of my own nature.

BEHOLDING beauty with the eye of the mind, he will be enabled to bring forth, not images of beauty, but realities, for he has hold not of an image but of a reality, and bringing forth and nourishing true virtue to become the friend of God and be immortal, if mortal man may. Would that be an ignoble life? PLATO

See:Beauty and Asymmetry

This pattern becomes reflective of how one can assign one's belief's to the world, and this is how I see this as an aspect in each of us. How this pattern is the reflection of what exists as a very bright light at our centres. This to me is the energy force and momentum that moves our lives to the expressions that we do, while it also reveals the aspect of the life, and the expressions which are shadows of the very reflection of that light.


A kaleidoscopic pattern made using a simple toy kaleidoscope tube.

The kaleidoscopic pattern metaphorically used as an expression of all life for me then? Now, there are other images besides flowers that also occupy my mind I perceive as holding an expressive tendency of the energy expression as a pattern of being.



See: here Also see:Iris recognition

Now sure I could be pegged as some one who delves on the fringes of what is the shadows of things, and while being perceived as such, is somehow ineligible to be part of this commentary on the energy of expression, as a pattern in one's life? Yet I do not believe that any of us can be said not to have this privilege, because I see it is an integrate part of our persons and our characters.

Yes, you can look at the whole person, and the matters that describe the reality, but it is much more that energy can explode into this reality that exists, and it all came from some centre?

Yes it's true I believe that the tunnel to the light, is a perceived way in which the soul in expression manifests itself into the world we called waking reality. It provides new meaning for, "light at the end of the tunnel" and how far an introspective view shall you take this to mean, we have come to a clearer perception of the reality of the situation in your life? But yes, we sleep and life consolidates too.

It would not to be to far off the mark that the seed and it's growth could mean much more as we reread the quote I give of Plato's, that has become the food for thought about life as an "expression of being." Let's look at again now in context of this post?

"AND we should consider that God gave the sovereign part of the human soul to be the divinity of each one, being that part which, as we say, dwells at the top of the body, inasmuch as we are a plant not of an earthly but of a heavenly growth, raises us from earth to our kindred who are in heaven. And in this we say truly; for the divine power suspended the head and root of us from that place where the generation of the soul first began, and thus made the whole body upright. When a man is always occupied with the cravings of desire and ambition, and is eagerly striving to satisfy them, all his thoughts must be mortal, and, as far as it is possible altogether to become such, he must be mortal every whit, because he has cherished his mortal part. But he who has been earnest in the love of knowledge and of true wisdom, and has exercised his intellect more than any other part of him, must have thoughts immortal and divine, if he attain truth, and in so far as human nature is capable of sharing in immortality, he must altogether be immortal; and since he is ever cherishing the divine power, and has the divinity within him in perfect order, he will be perfectly happy. Now there is only one way of taking care of things, and this is to give to each the food and motion which are natural to it. And the motions which are naturally akin to the divine principle within us are the thoughts and revolutions of the universe. These each man should follow, and correct the courses of the head which were corrupted at our birth, and by learning the harmonies and revolutions of the universe, should assimilate the thinking being to the thought, renewing his original nature, and having assimilated them should attain to that perfect life which the gods have set before mankind, both for the present and the future."

Plato from Timaeus, 90a-d, translated by B. Jowett

What use any author if he cannot point out the "depth of thought" that one can go into by leaving a "tidbit of information" so that one can be motivated to look at the whole picture and not just, "part of a mystery?" An assumption is made of the person, and from it the world views settles accordingly. Life becomes easy wrapped then to this meaning and we soon learn, where each of us has left "the synergy of the situation they are in," and realized, the counterpart is and will always hold a greater meaning. That we share this aspect of nature we have come to perceive.

Crab apple blossom We planted this in memory of a grandchild called Summer, who passed after being born. It was a way to remember, that life is "spring's eternal." Unfortunately, we had to leave it behind as we moved on, yet, is holds greater meaning now that we remember her, as we look at the blossoms.

If one is intuitive enough they can read deeper into this then they could have before? See beyond their nose?:)

The pathway of expression is an indelible feature then in my mind that it can follow an expression, and what was the origination of this motivation? If it is life as we know it, and it can impel a whole universe, why cannot this energy be impelled by some motivation from within you? All life?

See: Rankin Eyescapes

The Primitive Aspects of Being

"God does not care about our mathematical difficulties - he integrates empirically." Albert Einstein

See also Cerebral Hemisphere

So I got up and I jumped onto my cardio glider, which is a full-body exercise machine. And I'm jamming away on this thing, and I'm realizing that my hands looked like primitive claws grasping onto the bar. I thought "that's very peculiar" and I looked down at my body and I thought, "whoa, I'm a weird-looking thing." And it was as though my consciousness had shifted away from my normal perception of reality, where I'm the person on the machine having the experience, to some esoteric space where I'm witnessing myself having this experience.Stroke of insight: Jill Bolte Taylor

Bold added for emphasis.

I think this is part of the discovery of who you are. What makes up the person that has slipped ever so gently into this matter defined state. Who would of thought the elements of entanglement could have meant that energy and matter intertwined could have the oscillatory nature of this person become "who it is" by defining the atmosphere of it's relations with the world.

So technically, if we see the vast resources of so many bodies, what is relevant to our species that we could say there is indeed eternal hope that we will one day return to the very places we all arrived from? What happens to that "I am?"

I may of gone to far here for the minute because what I wanted to focus on was the recognition of those things that are primeval in all of us. Things that from such an elevated state of perspective are recognized. That while the elements of the physical are apparent in Jill Taylor's observations, it was through that "ancient part of our brains" that evolution has redeemed itself by the very evolution of perspective. We have somehow elevated the existence of being apart from the containment?

But in the meantime, there is a "relativity of being" that all things hold us to the ground, while the recognition of those things that are much more ephemeral in nature, can be the elements of emotive states of recognition that bind us firmly to our abodes.

The Triangle



So very basic in it's shape it can symbolize many things to many different people. The basic factor here is that we choose this design to exemplify a systemic approach to what our minds can relate in viewing reality.

While thinking about the ephemeral quality of the emotive states, and fully understanding this anatomical relation, I thought of these emotive elevations/descents and such. It was more the work for me to realize that the quality of perspective could be ruled by such "emotive states of recognition" whether you can identify these on your own or not. They were experientially defined in our relation and anatomically ruled by our minds, whether we could separate from them or not, was never the "not accepting ownership" that I would have implied through recognition, but the realization that we are all imbued with the elements of this "facet of being."

So we have Jill's perspective of her hand holding onto her cardio glider? Such observation qualities of mind and viewing from such a space, is the work of assigning responsibility to what we have become entangled in, in our acceptance who heartily of becoming the bodies in which we live.


The Square

Study of structure formation in the Universe is an area of forefront research in astrophysics. The early evolution, when the seed fluctuations are small, can be calculated analitycally on a piece of paper without the help of large supercomputers. As the fluctuations grow in their amplitude, the evolution becomes too complex and theorists have to use computers to follow the subsequent evolution.

See:Formation of the large-scale structure in the Universe: simulations

Martin Rees begins, and ends his lecture with the understanding of a given space.

If one had thought about the energy valuation of this given space, then what values could be reduced "from the beginning" to define it in these matter defined relations. You had to have a way in which to perceive the given reality at a time before the immersion of these rarefied thought forms that descend into the matter definitions of existence?

The grounding of perspective is the direct relation to how we perceive the elements of our physical bodies, to it's most densest form. While of course we recognize the degrees of the different phases of the elemental states,? It is with such conviction that I saw this relation to what defines the body our home, and what can be the bodies highest aspirations in terms of it's functionality as producing such thoughts.

While Martin Rees defines this ability of the culture as a sliver in the macroscopic relation of where humanity sits now, the final hour, is a transformational attitude about where we are going as a species?

That while all things things can be mapped to their biological nature, did we ever recognize the finer forms of manifestation that are revealed? Whether we accept the emotive states purely as anatomical, or, whether we plainly accept these mental capacities based on the neuronical processes alone?

So that is where I went in my journey was to define this "relativity of mind" in full acceptance of what Einstein may have implied in the "measurement of that time" based on our emotive relations, and acceptance, of this relation in the human experience. I based it on a much finer forms of realization, above the most rarefied matter states that one could think of, to develop a "model of understanding" beyond the limitations we had assigned the physical basis of our relations as a human form.

See: Lightening, as Strings Strike?

Mind Map: The Medicine Wheel

The Power of Myth With Bill Moyers, by Joseph Campbell , Introduction that Bill Moyers writes,

"Campbell was no pessimist. He believed there is a "point of wisdom beyond the conflicts of illusion and truth by which lives can be put back together again." Finding it is the "prime question of the time." In his final years he was striving for a new synthesis of science and spirit. "The shift from a geocentric to a heliocentric world view," he wrote after the astronauts touched the moon, "seemed to have removed man from the center-and the center seemed so important...

God as Architect/Builder/Geometer/CraftsmanEarly science, particularly geometry and astronomy/astrology, was connected to the divine for most medieval scholars. Notice, even, the circular shape of the halo. The compass in this 13th century manuscript is a symbol of God's act of Creation, as many believed that there was something intrinsically "divine" or "perfect" that could be found in circles The Circle

Going from 2 dimensional drawing to 3 dimensions has spherical relations in terms of it's mathematical development?

While I present a hint to the "explosion of the thinking mind," how is it such a transference to the actual processes in life could have equalled a "mathematical construct" that one might contend exists at the very beginning of this universe?




An Historical Version

Medicine Wheel Teachings by Thunderbird

The term "Medicine" as it is used by First Nations people does not refer to drugs or herbal remedies. It is used within the context of inner spiritual energy and healing or an enlightened experience, in other words, "spiritual energy." The Medicine Wheel and its sacred teachings assist us along the path towards mental, spiritual, emotional, physical balance and enlightenment.

A good starting point is to determine where you are on the Wheel by your birth date. The Medicine Wheel is walked in a clockwise direction (the direction of the Sun). The time needed to walk a complete circle is whatever time it takes - time, in other words, is relative to the process.

Now of course some feel very funny about using such things to represent something about themselves. Develop a map, that indicates some of one's own history according to someone's else method. What I mean here is that what you see of use in a historical method as per the Native Americans, then how would this apply to your own life?

I present this "from my own experience." How such ideas behind the mapping and mandalic interpretations are evidence for me of the complexity of the human mind. How is it we can create such a maps from the experience? One that can unfold for and from another more subtle recognition of the depth our natures. I believe that this process is inherent in each of us. The complexity of our human experiential existence makes this difficult to see. It is as if you "live a dream" and what does it mean at some other level? So you are confused about the chaoticness of the dream state?

A Tibetan interpretation of the Book of the dead would have it seem that confusion shall be the fog, our fog and any clarity of seeing would be to know what it is that causes this fog. Is it our emotive states of existence? Our emotive contaminants of the mental and spiritual state? What colour would these be if we had thought about what an emotive inflection had been given to an experiences of our own, as we speak and think about life?

So this journey of course took me back to Tibetan images, as well as Jung's interpretations of mandalas as expressions of the soul. The construction method and meanings associated with geometrical proportions to the division of the person. In terms of directions, north, south, east or west. These can have meanings to the idea of "seasons to our life" and this is, what going in a circle may mean in terms of the "totality of the life" of one person, from birth to death.

Does any of this seems familiar to you as it did to me. My natural inclination to mind mapping my experiences and developments of a philosophy according to what was being constructed, just arose from developing a "methodology to approach" intuitively.

See:

Mapping the Pathway Inside

The center and the whole-what it means?

Inside the Mathematical Universe

Mandalas as Mind Maps

While I respect Carl Jung and his thought on the personality, it would have made more sense to me that at death "perfection would be as best the soul is in it's attempts." To discover, one's nature and recognize that the living and working to perfect, "is the real success" for the work and perfection the soul quests for in attaining the clear light, instead of the fog.

CARL JUNG by Dr. C. George Boeree

The most important archetype of all is the self. The self is the ultimate unity of the personality and is symbolized by the circle, the cross, and the mandala figures that Jung was fond of painting. A mandala is a drawing that is used in meditation because it tends to draw your focus back to the center, and it can be as simple as a geometric figure or as complicated as a stained glass window. The personifications that best represent self are Christ and Buddha, two people who many believe achieved perfection. But Jung felt that perfection of the personality is only truly achieved in death

This blog entry is very important to me for a number of reasons. There is something very natural that can arise from a person's "subconscious state" that can explode(fire all the neurons) to become a person's paradigm change for their waking life. As if, the change and time according to the progression of a soul, is timely at a certain point in one's life. You had to make it happen yourself. No body told me about this, as I came to discover the deeper significances of the change that occurred.

It's also of wonder to me that this progression is signalled, and mark by the individual themself. That it had to come from a "previous existence." You had to used this "Mind Map" in previous circumstances unwittingly, by being a participant in the way this mandalas is set to ignite the soul with that new energy.

Of course you understand what a Mind Map is? Of course you understand what a mandala is? You understand what a liminocentric structure is?

What are Mind Maps?

The Alchemists attempted to perfect the One Thing of Hermes, what they called the First Matter, by using specific physical, psychological, and spiritual techniques that they describe in chemical terms and demonstrated in laboratory experiments. However, while the alchemists spoke in terms of chemicals, furnaces , flasks, and beakers, they were really talking about the changes taking place within their own bodies, minds, and souls.2

The Emerald Tablet, Dennis William Hauck, Chapter 10, Page 151

While I give a woodcut image of historical relevance, it is made to help one remember. The alchemist notion of distilling and perfecting one's very nature in life. Of course, there are current scientist perceptions that speak to the alchemist notions of Newton. I would again have to remind the good scientists about the alchemical nature being more then just the chymstry in a lab. The alchemist body was also a lab. It deals with the psychological aspects of our emotive and mental states.

If the context of these were understood as valuations measured in terms of the "circle within the circle" a topological review was done by me on how determinations of which line is which, arises as we look to unfold the "colour and valuations of being" at one time or another. While I place our individuality at the centre, it is around you that I speak to the unfolding, all the while a physiological process is unfolding in the states of those emotive and mental ventures. The outer most circle is the spiritual domain of our journeys.

Splendor Solis ("The Splendour of the Sun") is a well-known colorful alchemical manuscriptThe symbolic process shows the classical alchemical death and rebirth of the king, and incorporates a series of seven flasks, each associated with one of the planets. Within the flasks a process is shown involving the transformation of bird and animal symbols into the Queen and King, the white and the red tincture. Although the style of the Splendor Solis illuminations suggest an earlier date, they are quite clearly of the 16th century See:Newton the Alchemist

A mind map is a diagram used to represent words, ideas, tasks or other items linked to and arranged radially around a central key word or idea. It is used to generate, visualize, structure and classify ideas, and as an aid in study, organization, problem solving, decision making, and writing.

It is an image-centered diagram that represents semantic or other connections between portions of information. By presenting these connections in a radial, non-linear graphical manner, it encourages a brainstorming approach to any given organizational task, eliminating the hurdle of initially establishing an intrinsically appropriate or relevant conceptual framework to work within.

A mind map is similar to a semantic network or cognitive map but there are no formal restrictions on the kinds of links used.

The elements are arranged intuitively according to the importance of the concepts and they are organized into groupings, branches, or areas. The uniform graphic formulation of the semantic structure of information on the method of gathering knowledge, may aid recall of existing memories.

You would have to understand some of the blog posts I have done, in order to see that mathematical structures are derived from images, however they are described to take us as close as possible to the very "essence of the idea" being translated? This, is a universal language for scientists

Are mathematical truths invented or discovered? This is an age old question that I have seen around for some time. If you believe that every thing has already been thought of, then it would mean, that it is only to be discovered.

The Space you Provide

The mandala can also be an image of eternity cycling through time and as such images soul's and Nature's circular journeys, as they are reflected in, for example, the Native American Medicine Wheel, in seasonal, rebirth and karmic cycles, in mythic journeys of going out and returning changed to one's point of origin, and in the zodiacal wheel as life's twelve archetypal stages of personal growth.

This cyclic transformation is also at the heart of ancient Chinese meditation. When the spiritual light in the body moves through rhythmical breathing in a circle, all the opposite energies of heaven and earth, sun and moon, light and dark, are crystallised and form what the Chinese called the Golden Flower, an inner mandala imaging the balanced, open and centred heart.

How quiet do we have to be to recognize "that place" from which such ideas will emerge. A space and place from inside of you.

We can read all our lives and study, but what is it we will take from it all. What will we move forward that will become profound for you to realize all things become anew. Ideas change who we are. Ideas worked can become the ideals, and it this translation in our work, that such things become possible.

Mind Maps: Mathematical Structures?

Plato's doctrine of recollection, however, addresses such criticism by saying that souls are born with the concepts of the forms, and just have to be reminded of those concepts from back before birth, when the souls were in close contact with the forms in the Platonic heaven. Plato is thus known as one of the very first rationalists, believing as he did that humans are born with a fund of a priori knowledge, to which they have access through a process of reason or intellection — a process that critics find to be rather mysterious

What are Mind Maps?

A mind map is a diagram used to represent words, ideas, tasks or other items linked to and arranged radially around a central key word or idea. It is used to generate, visualize, structure and classify ideas, and as an aid in study, organization, problem solving, decision making, and writing.

It is an image-centered diagram that represents semantic or other connections between portions of information. By presenting these connections in a radial, non-linear graphical manner, it encourages a brainstorming approach to any given organizational task, eliminating the hurdle of initially establishing an intrinsically appropriate or relevant conceptual framework to work within.

A mind map is similar to a semantic network or cognitive map but there are no formal restrictions on the kinds of links used.

The elements are arranged intuitively according to the importance of the concepts and they are organized into groupings, branches, or areas. The uniform graphic formulation of the semantic structure of information on the method of gathering knowledge, may aid recall of existing memories.

Well straight to the point then I guess.

Bee:

The important thing about the basis of our societies is not actually its fixed structure but the way to readjust it. A bit of scientific method would be good there.

As I mentioned previously on Backreaction site and in giving subsequent information about this process. It has been a journey of my own discovery, that I would say that at the basis of reality is such a mathematical structure.

I know when this process started for me and it would not serve any purpose at this point to speak to it directly. People have their reasons for and against such a proposal as their being such a mathematical structure, so what currently leads me to say that their are these two opposing views?


Wigner’s Gift Horse By JULIE REHMEYER • Feb 1, 2008 See here for article.

Stephen Wolfram argues that the way to unlock the rest of science is to give up on mathematics and look for explanations analogous to computer code. Very simple computer programs can produce remarkably complex behavior that mimics phenomena science has had difficulty modeling, like the motion of fluids, for example. So studying the behavior of these programs may provide scientists with new insights about these phenomena. Indeed, Wolfram thinks the universe itself may be generated by a computer program simple enough to be expressed in a few lines of code. “If the laws are simple enough, if we look in the right way we’ll find them,” he says. “If they’re not, it will be tougher. The history of physics makes one pessimistic that we could ever end physics. I don’t share that pessimism.”

Tegmark believes in an extreme form of Platonism, the idea that mathematical objects exist in a sort of universe of their own. Imagine that, Tegmark says, “there’s this museum in this Platonic math space that has these mathematical objects that exists outside of space and time,” Tegmark says. “What I’m saying is that their existence is exactly the same as a physical existence, and our universe is one of these guys in the museum.”

Also worth reading is the sum of any position that would infer the stance of Plato versus anti-Plato, to help distinguish whether or not one might have something of value in terms of the question of whether Mathematics is invented or discovered.

Mathematical Platonism and its Opposites by Barry Mazur January 11, 2008. See here.

For the Platonists. One crucial consequence of the Platonic position is that it views mathematics as a project akin to physics, Platonic mathematicians being—as physicists certainly are—describers or possibly predictors—not, of course, of the physical world, but of some other more noetic entity. Mathematics—from the Platonic perspective—aims, among other things, to come up with the most faithful description of that entity.

For the Anti-Platonists. Here there are many pitfalls. A common claim, which is meant to undermine Platonic leanings, is to introduce into the discussion the theme of mathematics as a human, and culturally dependent pursuit and to think that one is actually conversing about the topic at hand.

Mapping the interaction from a scientific point of view?

As I read through the article I had previous insights while reading through Sir Roger Penrose's lecture on the Extended Physical WorldView. While I myself had picked the title, it would have been nicer to show the very image on the start of that lecture.



This is a important statement I am making below because it distinguishes between where we think we might be going in terms of computer technologies versus what will always remain within the human domain.

So on the one hand one might think about technologies in the 21st Century and wonder if computer technology can ever reach the status of Consciousness with which the "synaptic event" could include images, all the while it would include all the history to that point?

While it is never clear to me about the origins of the universe, it had some relation in my mind to what first allowed any soul's expression. While I had shown the relation to the synaptic event, there had to be a place created for such an expression, to be fortunate and validated.

Do I know what plan for every individual is, of course not, but that you choose such an expression is self evident. There is much to the word, "self evident" that remains to be explored within context of this site, and of value, in the iconic image of Raphael's expression with Plato and Aristotle at it's centre.

Now, neuronic networking is supposedly the platform computer technologies can take in their designs, but what true aspect of the emergent process could ever define the human being and one's potential? The information that could enter such an synaptic event within your own thinking mind?

So the process is one of self discovery. About processes within your own self that allow one to possibly develop the new mathematics that speak directly to the very unfolding of the universe?

The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences by Eugene Wigner

The great mathematician fully, almost ruthlessly, exploits the domain of permissible reasoning and skirts the impermissible. That his recklessness does not lead him into a morass of contradictions is a miracle in itself: certainly it is hard to believe that our reasoning power was brought, by Darwin's process of natural selection, to the perfection which it seems to possess. However, this is not our present subject. The principal point which will have to be recalled later is that the mathematician could formulate only a handful of interesting theorems without defining concepts beyond those contained in the axioms and that the concepts outside those contained in the axioms are defined with a view of permitting ingenious logical operations which appeal to our aesthetic sense both as operations and also in their results of great generality and simplicity.

[3 M. Polanyi, in his Personal Knowledge (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1958), says: "All these difficulties are but consequences of our refusal to see that mathematics cannot be defined without acknowledging its most obvious feature: namely, that it is interesting" (p 188).]

What can arise from any person, to have defined that it reaches back into the forms. That it chooses to manifest "as the person" you have become? What lies dormant, that you awake to it in such a way that it will manifest in all that you do, and become part of the "history of recollection" that you unfold in this life, and have learnt these things before? You dream?

I, Robot:

....signs of new life emerge as images photonically flicker in the new logic forming apparatus....

I had a dream....

We might like to think that computers are capable, while the very idea of the "image" holds such vasts amount of information. This is not a new idea from an historical perspective if one ever thought to consider the alchemists of our early science.

How would you contain all the probability and outcomes, with ever looking beyond space and time, to realize that the "heavens" in some way, meet the earth. Manifest within you? Can find re-birthing through you? Inner/outer become one.

Euclidean Geometry and the Shadows

Just as some prisoners may escape out into the sun, so may some people amass knowledge and ascend into the light of true reality.The Holographic Principle and M-theory

I am always interested in "the flavour history" gives as we look back in time. If one always looked to the past as they looked at the cosmos what will become of the future? This has be stereotypically been instilled in our humanities thinking. That there is a brighter light that shines and all it's shadows cast are of some "truer reality" then the one that is now.

LIC(Long Island City) Gnomon Header above.

Of course it would not be without understanding certain things about "Plato's character" that I should show how we can deposit "these historical packets of energy" in that history. That it is deeply entrenched in "current sociological thinking" as we make our way through the days of our existence. A kind of "collective unconscious."

As archiac as this "method of measure" may seem, it has captured our fascination in more ways then one.

Plato's cave?

You tend to get this consistency of "historical thought" once one sees the connection?:)Euclid

How could one not perceive geometry at work after seeing what the sun can do in regards to these calendars?

One could of course propose the Egyptian new year, where the dead are placed, in relation to the pyramid, and the design of that history according to the clock, but then ,it may be in contradiction to what is current.

Even more ancient, the Medicine Wheels.

So looking at the blog entry of Stefan of Backreaction, and "Bee's mathematical universe," I would say these are "deeply connected with each other" that I would have to indeed say something.

I see Bee beat me too it.

Q9:"People see all sorts of things when they look at the SUN and Solar Calendars"

Time and how one views the cosmos for sure.

Capturing the understanding of Hooft, Heisenberg and others, you see Stefan working the principals "outside of himself" with his environment. Inside the universe.

Like, how one can "view the cosmos" or how "dimensionality is reduced to the now."

The evidence of "the beginning" is not gone?

The shadows reveal this, and so it reveals the mathematics of this universe.

Or, how the matter of the diamond has it's structure implanted in the mapping of it's features?

Yet, "the mapping" is closer to the beginning, then, the matter is of itself. :)

I expound further in Shadow Dancing in the Light and "The Artist In Us All"

The Artist In Us All

""Deep play means no analysis, no explanation, no promises, no goals, no worries. You are completely open to the drama of life that may unfold.""-Dianne Ackerman

See more on Deep Play.

This post entry under the heading of the "Artist in us All," is a culmination of information that I had transmitted on Bee's discussion board, under the heading of Art and Communication.

The whole jest is a preclude to a much more detailed analysis of Art and Science and the following post to this one, prepares the readers for a understanding that I myself strongly advocate.

But before I move to far ahead of myself, let me take you to the post entries that will prepare one for future considerations.

The Format

A final aspect of beauty that was often cited by readers might be called "deep play". This is the sense that we are actively engaged with something outside ourselves that is responding to us - rather than watching a game of our own construction or watching nature from a detached distance.

The timing of "preparing the format" asks that any given time be considered as the source from which we will move human experiences further along it's path to growth. We can "remove names" and this exercise will be of value to who ever inserts their name or responds accordingly to the questions posted in that same name.

This is the valuation of interplay that is part of our own gathering system. This post then is the template for what is happening within your own self. A "perceived constant" is being examined in relation to your contact with reality? What ever that is for you at this time?

Bee,

"It is sometimes the scientist who takes "to the edge." Then it is the artist, who takes us much further." Plato( this is my quote Bee :)

Susskind did exactly this, by envisioning a rubber band? Some may laugh, yet, it is a mathematical insight.

Penroses Influence on Escher

During the later half of the 1950’s, Maurits Cornelius Escher received a letter from Lionel and Roger Penrose. This letter consisted of a report by the father and son team that focused on impossible figures. By this time, Escher had begun exploring impossible worlds. He had recently produced the lithograph Belvedere based on the “rib-cube,” an impossible cuboid named by Escher (Teuber 161). However, the letter by the Penroses, which would later appear in the British Journal of Psychology, enlightened Escher to two new impossible objects; the Penrose triangle and the Penrose stairs. With these figures, Escher went on to create further impossible worlds that break the laws of three-dimensional space, mystify one’s mind, and give a window to the artist heart.

But on the other hand you speak about the longevity of the musician, in place of what artist can do, but I would remind you of Dali's picture "on time" as a masterpiece?

Not least to mention his geometrical views on the hypercube and the crucification?

Number theory is the type of math that describes the swirl in the head of a sunflower and the curve of a chambered nautilus. Bhargava says it's also hidden in the rhythms of classical Indian music, which is both mathematical and improvisational. He sees close links between his two loves -- both create beauty and elegance by weaving together seemingly unconnected ideas.

There is a "inherent beauty in the mathematics" when we think about this music?

Not to mention the relationship of the "Monte Carlo methods" in relation to the cubists.

Bee, you were to soft in your opinion of artists when I am showing you otherwise. :)

Here is another quote you might recognize in relation to a form of mathematics.

An equation means nothing to me unless it expresses a thought of God.Srinivasa Ramanujan

It is how Srinivasa Ramanujan received his "inspiration" and the place from which this mathematics emerged, that few people realize is of significance.

From "a chaotic mind" it resolved itself "to the subconscious" that we realize the pattern that is inherent underneath.

12:50 PM, October 10, 2007

Part of the understanding here is our connection to the "universality of the subconscious mind" and it's reservoir of impressions received, as we try to express our perspective of the world. "How deep" is your subconscious mind, that you would not understand the complexity of all "self evident information" makes you who you are? That this interplay that takes place with you and your environment, is an exchange that is taking place not only on a "deductive and inductive Archean constant" that all of us would then be writing the "postulate of experience" here?

Bee,

It is not about God, but how we dress up the mathematics in our everyday lives. Then, we have to decipher the context of the mathematics other then the "resolved experience-science" we have in moving mathematics forward?

To Srinivasa Ramanujan it was about his dream and how he received his messages, yet, how absurd that such a place as the subconscious we could receive such inspiration?

It is not about "heliocentrism" that we are, "the centre of the universe," but rather, that we are connected to the universe in such a way?

Liminocentric structures?

Finally, we also hope that this series furthers the discussion regarding the nature and function of 'the mandala'. In the spiritual traditions from which Jung borrowed the term, it is not the SYMMETRY of mandalas that is all-important, as Jung later led us to believe. It is their capacity to reveal the asymmetry that resides at the very heart of symmetry. By offering a new view about how consciousness itself is structured - in a fundamentally paradoxical fashion - and how these structurings are reflected in principles according to which the mandala is organized, we are able in this series to show how personality itself may be thought of as having an essentially 'liminocentric' design.

The "source of symmetry" is our perfection with the universal inherent in each of us. Our delving into this large pool is in part the effort of our recordings, that what is gained in experience is mapped on the brain's structure, and beyond that. This interplay has to have consequence? Not just in the development of the brain's structure, but far beyond what we see of the physical body.

1:40 PM, October 10, 2007

Bee:I tend to believe we are taking ourselves too seriously. If there is a God how could we be sure we'd be able to understand his (her?) thoughts? Genderless for sure eh?:)

From a psychological perspective and I am no expert for sure, but our present state of consciousness has to be supported in one way or another. Animus and Anima, depending on that gender?

An "all wise mother figure" who appears in your dream( your higher self speaking to you), or for those men, who recognize that the higher self is talking to them in a way that they have their "wise white haired person offering insight."

But before I loose you here, I wanted to show you that on first appearance Jean Shinoda Bolen is telling a story. This is the artist aspect of herself, showing the depth of our natures. She is showing it in a way that is helping people identify aspects of themself. Showing underlying causes for such "fantasy development."

Richards Wagners's Ring of Nibelung Jean Shinoda Bolen, M.D. Ring of Power was interesting.

Strange that we could have seen A Jungian Understanding of the Wagner's Ring cycle, portrayed in todays world and how could have this been accomplished. But by re-introducing a fictional story and embuing it with the archetypal structures of what Jean Shinoda Bolen called, "The Abandon Child, The Authoritarian Father, and the Disempowered Feminine."

Under the search of "Jean Shinoda Bolen on my site." One reason the "nav bar" was of good use. If you have a search feature otherwise?

It's never clear from all appearances, yet there is a deeper understanding of what is culminating in a person's experiential life.

I follow your thoughts on Bohm for I read him a long time ago too, and somehow it seems fitting that art and communication, might have incorporated "language as a developmental phase" to seeing reality, in new ways?

Sort of like being initiated into string theory, to help get past some of the blockages that are stopping science from developing further?

7:56 AM, October 11, 2007

These blockages manifest within the self, and become impediments to our experience and progression to further learning. This is not to say learning stops. It is the "greatest effort" that what has become apparent in the state of self evidential experience, is the potential to great transport human experience beyond the self's own limitations. Provides for, the "intuitive leaps" necessary once the basis of this experience is resolved. How deep this blockages goes, that the subconscious mind will allow images to transport the self to a future place for consideration.

Bee:It might not be an universally applicable source of inspiration?

To Hardy I don't think that mattered one bit. It is just part of the process to understanding how we humans like to fabricate our realities. Yet, there is a universal connection that we have that is a very consistent. One in relation to the artist in us all.

Namagiri, the consort of the lion god Narasimha. Ramanujan believed that he existed to serve as Namagiri´s champion - Hindu Goddess of creativity. In real life Ramanujan told people that Namagiri visited him in his dreams and wrote equations on his tongue.

We are the best predictors of ourselves and our experiential conditions that we put forward. A model perhaps in developmental insight as to what we have to do in science?

So in the psychology......

If any such resolve is not forthcoming in our "supposed awake reality," then there is a culminating effect that someone(archetypal) is speaking to us to help us resolve these disputes. "Our universality" is there in us all. I see no race religion, or gender.

So like Jean above we write our own story, and show the affect our experiential life has on the new conditions if not resolved.

So I apply these things to our current search for understanding the math creation (calculus for Newton)and the derivatives needed to push insight further into "new realms of experience."

Would you denigrate Calculus as a language to helping you discern the nature of reality? Newton knew he had to do something. Einstein realize it when Grossman was developing a new language, as was Reinmann preparing us from his predecessors, on the issue of "non euclidean geometries?" Gauss was very delighted with his student

8:18 AM, October 11, 2007

Understanding that human experience is "cradling the times for breakthroughs to further understanding" is the incubation period necessary for preparing these intuitive leaps and future predictability.

Here 50% or 100% provides for whether the human side of us really understands and knows what is necessary for us to progress. How would the probability of all human experiences to know to draw for one own postulate, "the self evident" and then understand that the leap to growth in experiences requires this and this?

While such is th evastness of the human experience it is not without our understanding that each of us has repercussions of actions to every decision we make. I cannot tell which, only that this probability can be played out time and time again and it will result in the growth of each of us at varying times. There is a constancy that is being talked about here that can be debated, but as far as I can tell this is the postulate that has been written.

To them, I said,
the truth would be literally nothing
but the shadows of the images.


-Plato, The Republic (Book VII)

I used this quote in "your other thread" for a reason. Images? Think about this for a minute.

If one can "translate" and transfer the image mathematically for each other, then what has happened? A level of communication not understood before?


Arthur Miller

Miller has since moved away from conventional history of science, having become interested in visual imagery through reading the German-language papers of Einstein, Heisenberg and Schrödinger - "people who were concerned with visualization and visualizability". Philosophy was an integral part of the German school system in the early 1900s, Miller explains, and German school pupils were thoroughly trained in the philosophy of Immanuel Kant.

When I referred to Susskind I did so for a reason as well. This is the culmination of what mathematically is derived. Thus, the image is a culmination, yet, it is only a "shadow of the truth."

I used Magritte, When is a Pipe a Pipe painting, to illustrate this.

Hawking shows this in his book as well.

You have to remember Plato's analogy was even used by Gerardus t'Hooft. See here and Heisenberg so you are in good company.

P.A.M. Dirac was a gifted mathematical inventor who saw how quantum mechanics rises from classical mechanics, yet transcends it. Dirac did not know of the Bohr atom when he arrived at Cambridge in 1923; yet he quickly began contributing to the mathematical structure demanded by quantum phenomena, discovering the connection between the Poisson bracket and the commutator of Heisenberg”s matrix representation of observables. Then, with careful attention to its classical antecedent, Dirac found the equation governing the evolution of the matrix elements which had eluded Heisenberg in the operator ihdA/dt = [A,H]. He then went on to discover spinors in describing the relativistic electron and antimatter implied by the quantum in relativistic space-time. Dirac conceived the many-time formulation of relativistic quantum mechanics and laid the foundations of the Feynman path integral thereby opening the way to quantum electrodynamics. Newton synthesized the foundations of classical mechanics. In fitting kinship, Dirac, who did the equivalent for quantum mechanics, filled the chair at Cambridge held by Newton.

Some people are better suited to visualization then others, and this comes out in some mathematicians and in artists as I had shown you of Escher and Dali. I could never judge Dali for his character an his life, but I can say how important he tried to push the envelope. Maybe for all his indulges, he thought if he could think of the cross and his geometrically tendency he might have found some relation?


Of course, to Plato this story was just meant to symbolize mankind's struggle to reach enlightenment and understanding through reasoning and open-mindedness. We are all initially prisoners and the tangible world is our cave. Just as some prisoners may escape out into the sun, so may some people amass knowledge and ascend into the light of true reality.

What is equally interesting is the literal interpretation of Plato's tale: The idea that reality could be represented completely as `shadows' on the walls

12:19 PM, October 12, 2007

The Last Mimzy

Is Based on the short story by Lewis Padgett. It is a story about two children who find this strange box on the beach and with it begins the strange journey of discovery.

I really enjoyed this show even though it was geared for the younger set. It was one I might of watched with my Grand children. I thought last night after working quite late on the house, I needed a little R&R. My wife has gone to look after her father, and the trailer suddenly seems larger then usual without my better half. :(



Anyway there are some things within this show, even though it is fictional, are the basis of thoughts I have had about Mandalas for a lot of years now. Why I show the picture I do, from amongst the selection of other pictures you can find here of the Last Mimzy.

Another surprise is to find Brian Greene playing a role in this movie as well.

Brian Greene-Columbia physicist Brian Greene inhabits a multiple-perspective landscape modeled after M.C. Escher's artwork in a scene from "The Elegant Universe," a public-TV documentary based on Greene's book.

Amazing that something from the future can been heralded in this time. You'd almost think that information from the future was somehow being conserved and making it's way into the minds of current researchers?

The Mandalas

Finally, we also hope that this series furthers the discussion regarding the nature and function of 'the mandala'. In the spiritual traditions from which Jung borrowed the term, it is not the SYMMETRY of mandalas that is all-important, as Jung later led us to believe. It is their capacity to reveal the asymmetry that resides at the very heart of symmetry. By offering a new view about how consciousness itself is structured - in a fundamentally paradoxical fashion - and how these structurings are reflected in principles according to which the mandala is organized, we are able in this series to show how personality itself may be thought of as having an essentially 'liminocentric' design.

See also:The Philosophy of Death is one of Life?

Housebuilding

It all start off as "a dream" or "an idea." Where do these come from? Dialogos of Eide

This is the house similar to what we will be constructing, with some modifications of course.

Most know of my time helping my son last year constructing his home. The journey of pictures that I have here within this bloggery. It has also some "dimensional aspect" in it's development, so I thought this might help those who are working Euclidean coordinates, may help to seal this process in some way, by being introduced to house construction.

This is the home that my wife and I had built in 1998. It was built on ten acres of land with a wide sweeping view of the mountains in the background. Although not seen here, you may have seen some of my rainbow pictures that I had put up over the years to help with the scenery we had.

Well the time has come for my wife and I to be entering into the venture ourselves. You will notice that the model we choose above is one floor. We thought this suitable for the coming years as when we move into retirement.

Here is a picture of my daughter-in-law and son's house in the winter of this last year. He still has some work to do, but as per our agreement, I help him, he is helping me.

I think I am getting the better of the deal, as he has taken the time to write me a 17 page step procedure with which I must follow. I thought this will become part of the journey for my wife and myself, so that everyone may see the process unfolding and maybe learn something about home construction. The plans of course change from country to country, while this plan is unfolding in Canada.

We purchased a 2 acre parcel of land with which to build the new home up top. I went into the bush with the camera and with about 2 feet of snow. It was not to easy to get around, so as time progresses,and as I put in the roadway and cleared site, you will get a better idea of what it looks like.



We had to contend with where we will live. We wanted the freedom and space to be close to where we will be building, so we bought a 19' foot travel trailer and will be putting it on the acreage while we build our new home. We thought of "renting" and our son of course offered for a time to let us live with him. We thought all around with the new baby Maley, we would leave them have their space as well.

Laying the Foundation

Articles on Euclid

See No Royal Road to Geometry?

I would like people to take note of the image supplied on the website of Euclides.Org, as it is one that I have used showing Plato and Aristotle. The larger picture of course is one done by Raphael and is painted on the wall in the "Signatores room in the Vatican."

The Room of the Segnatura contains Raphael's most famous frescoes. Besides being the first work executed by the great artist in the Vatican they mark the beginning of the high Renaissance. The room takes its name from the highest court of the Holy See, the "Segnatura Gratiae et Iustitiae", which was presided over by the pontiff and used to meet in this room around the middle of the 16th century. Originally the room was used by Julius II (pontiff from 1503 to 1513) as a library and private office. The iconographic programme of the frescoes, which were painted between 1508 and 1511, is related to this function. See Raphael Rooms

While one may of talked abut the past, or use a name like Plato of the past does not mean that what is being supplied from that position is not dealing with information for the 21st century. I would like you to think that while speaking about models that what the house is doing in "a psychological sense" is giving you a method by which all that you do in your life will materialize in consciousness and digs deep into the unconscious.

How often had you seen yourself in dream time, doing something or other, in the living room, kitchen, or anything that deals with the current state of mind, that you of course will see in this house? They are the many rooms of the mind.

All those who have written histories bring to this point their account of the development of this science. Not long after these men came Euclid, who brought together the Elements, systematizing many of the theorems of Eudoxus, perfecting many of those of Theatetus, and putting in irrefutable demonstrable form propositions that had been rather loosely established by his predecessors. He lived in the time of Ptolemy the First, for Archimedes, who lived after the time of the first Ptolemy, mentions Euclid. It is also reported that Ptolemy once asked Euclid if there was not a shorter road to geometry that through the Elements, and Euclid replied that there was no royal road to geometry. He was therefore later than Plato's group but earlier than Eratosthenes and Archimedes, for these two men were contemporaries, as Eratosthenes somewhere says. Euclid belonged to the persuasion of Plato and was at home in this philosophy; and this is why he thought the goal of the Elements as a whole to be the construction of the so-called Platonic figures. (Proclus, ed. Friedlein, p. 68, tr. Morrow)

See also Laying the Foundation with Respect While one indeed had to start somewhere I thought I would start here with, "Foundational Perspectives."

I choose this as an introduction, whilst I will be starting from the ground up. This will include the planning of road way and building site. Since I have this interest about physics and where science is going these days, how could I not incorporate these things into what I am doing currently with my life now? So while I speak about the science end, I am encapsulating "this process" with regard to how I will construct my home.

Is this possible?

Well having spoken of the "Euclidean reference" one would have to know how one departs form such a scheme of Euclid, to know that this graduation to Non-Euclidean geometries was somehow related to the "fifth postulate" written by Euclid.

So of course, we had those who were involved in this development historically, which serve to remind us about where someone like Dali may of been as a visionary, in terms of Time. Or "geometrically inclined" to higher dimensional figures.

It definitely had it's connotations to "points of view." I mentioned religion, but for the nature of Salvador Dali, and his lifestyle, one would have to wonder where he was going with the Tesserack and his painting of Jesus on the Cross?

While I do not subscribe to any religion per say, I do subscribe to the finger of Plato pointing up. Have you for one moment you thought to roll your eyes up in your head, and think of what is up their in your mind? Assign our highest values to goodness. Surely you would enlist the "Colour of gravity" in all situations as you choose to live your life? It's there for the choosing.

Surely, that if you wore a hat on your head, or thought, to think of the roof of your house, you may indeed think of the highest ideals with which you choose to live your life. It's not my job to tell you what that is, that is yours alone.

You will be involved with aspects of the "universal language" that knows no boundaries, no matter your race, gender, or nationality. Yet, it will be specific to you. It will have "probabilistic outcomes" according to the life you are living regardless.

The Secret of the Golden Flower

When ever you walk the pathways in your mind of what ever model, you are laying the road work for that which you will travel through. Why, I may have referred to the title of the "Golden Flower in the Bee story," is a result, that the probabilistic outcome of life calls upon this "chance meeting" to come to what is held in mind. So what's new having the honey of the Bee community?

Do the Bee dance, and you learnt from others what this model is doing. So you travel. You get the benefits of the honey sometimes in new thoughts? There had to be a point "like the blank slate, glass room, a pen and paper ready" in order for the mind to be receptive to what already exists out there in the "form of ideas." How will these manifest? So indeed, it came from deep inside/outside you?

I never thought this inductive/deductive method while thinking it topological smooth in it's orientation, was not the exchange going on with our environment. That if you live your life according to your principles, then the principles would become part of your life. That on a level not understood to clearly, the "colour of gravity" was what we could evolve too? What is our own dynamical makeup, to become part of the ideals we had set for ourselves. We set our own ship in life. The boat or vehicle, becomes part of the way we will travel in our dream time. The airplane we ride.