Is Special Relativity Wrong?

New Physics?

Possible violations of Lorentz invariance are an ideal signal of new physics because nothing in the Standard Model of particle physics permits the violation of special relativity. Therefore, no conventional process could ever mimic or cover up a genuine signal of Lorentz violation.

Now before I move to the jest of the post, a little clarification and wonder before moving on to the opening statement.

This is taken from the article in the Guardian, and then is requoted below, where I will requote ,the quote of the quote.

Peter Woit quotes:)

Witten's attitude towards string theory seems to remain unchanged, he's quoted as saying:

"Critics of string theory say that it might be too big a step. Most physicists in other fields are simply agnostic and properly so," says Witten. "It isn't an established theory. My personal opinion is that there are circumstantial reasons to suspect that it's on the right track."

Now I mentioned the difficulties that I was having in regards to Smolin and the string perspective and coming to look at the way in which experimentation might be the end all answer to model assumptions? Alas in recognition of the validity, a quick departure everyone is having with what model they are firmly entrenched in? As far as I know, Peter Woit doesn't have a model?:) A healthy skeptic maybe like the amazing Randi, as in science's mode of operandi requim? The clarifications seem to becoming loud and clear.

Anyway on to an important question and where I thought Smolin was working. Sorry I could be wrong, but I am trying awfully hard to gain perspective.


Our basic premise is that minuscule apparent violations of Lorentz and CPT invariance might be observable in nature. The idea is that the violations would arise as suppressed effects from a more fundamental theory.

We have shown in our publications that arbitrary Lorentz and CPT violations are quantitatively described by a theory called the Standard-Model Extension, which is a modification of the usual Standard Model of particle physics and Einstein's theory of gravity, General Relativity.

So here is the thing that has sort of stump me. I know Smolin is a quantum gravity man, or this is what I had surmise and appreciated greatly from his book, "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity." Well the thing is, if Smolin had stopped at SR then it is quite plain that he is attempting to define quantum grvaity scenario from this perspective?



Now comes the understanding of the image that I put on Lubos's site that he might have wondered, without anything to associate it with? Well wonder of all wonders.:) This is of course one of a few experiments the Alan has detailled for us.

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  observations of neutral-meson oscillations
  
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  observations of neutrino oscillations
  
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  clock-comparison tests on Earth and in space
  
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  studies of the motion of a spin-polarized torsion pendulum
  
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  spectroscopy of hydrogen and antihydrogen
  
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  comparative tests of QED in Penning traps
  
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  determination of muon properties
  
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  measurements of cosmological birefringence
  
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  tests with microwave cavities and lasers
  
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  observation of the baryon asymmetry
  

New Clock Comparison Searches for Lorentz and CPT Violation

Ronald Walsworth and his Harvard-Smithsonian colleagues, in conjunction with theorist Alan Kostelecky at Indiana University, look at how atoms prepared in special magnetic states (the precision of their light emissions allow them to serve as “clocks”) vary in their timekeeping when moving at certain velocities (or "boosts") relative to the hypothetical Lorentz-symmetry-violating fields that may permeate the universe.

Is Everyone Declaring their Position Clearly?

"Most string theorists are very arrogant," says Seiberg with a smile. "If there is something [beyond string theory], we will call it string theory."

I am going to comment on Peter Woit's reference to the article called String Fellows he has highlight from the Guardian.

Here's what Nathan Seiberg mentions and points to the difficulty of finding the means to describe the microstates of quantum geometry. I wanted to place his statement, in context of a poem earlier written. So I'll post his comment, and then link to the appropriate source for consideration. It's getting a little worn out already, without us constantly being reminded:)

Nathan Seiberg, a colleague of Witten's at the IAS, uses the analogy of blind men examining an elephant to explain the course of string theory until 1995. "One describes touching a leg, one describes touching a trunk, another describes the ears," he says. "They come up with different descriptions but they don't see the big picture. There is only one elephant and they describe different parts of it."The Guardian

Now I most definitely see there is a great wish to eliminate any familiarity with dimensional anaylsis in regards to Peter Woit, that I find many others now, all of a sudden clarfying for us the model distinctions that are being used, and I think Peter Woit understands this?

Model Building

I am not like the kind of people who would like to eliminate (and often they DO eliminate) every piece of data that is inconvenient to them. And moreover I think that John Ellis is an interesting person with inspiring ideas, and I have absolutely no reason to try to verbally eliminate him from some group---Posted by Luboš Motl at January 20, 2005 08:32 AM

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In delving into the issue of dimenisons it has become pretty clear there are intelligent people who have paved the roads for us to count to the fourth dimension for sure and we have also heard, there is no such things as dimensions? So what the heck does this mean.

Maybe a expanded version of dimension is needed? But if you do this, you might go beyond string theory?:) Which of course brings me to the issue, that if dimension is to be used to the fourth, then anything that goes beyond the fourth if not a dimension has to be something else? Of course giving room to grow being expounded here, tells us what is beyond string theory, to have said, we are going beyond the standard model?


THOMAS BANCHOFF has been a professor of mathematics at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, since 1967. He has written two books and fifty articles on geometric topics, frequently incorporating interactive computer graphics techniques in the study of phenomena in the fourth and higher dimensions

With John Ellis' reference to what took place at Cern in 2003 brings to a head the idea of dimension, as it has been expounded by Thomas in regards to computer screens?

Today, however, we do have the opportunity not only to observe phenomena in four and higher dimensions, but we can also interact with them. The medium for such interaction is computer graphics. Computer graphic devices produce images on two-dimensional screens. Each point on the screen has two real numbers as coordinates, and the computer stores the locations of points and lists of pairs of points which are to be connected by line segments or more complicated curves. In this way a diagram of great complexity can be developed on the screen and saved for later viewing or further manipulation

As a reality greatly expanded from what the internet used to be, refering to the Cern Article. If you accept the conceptualization of higher dimension then indeed the work that Thomas moved into, was mind expanding and thought provoking in regards to the animations and reality in front of you with this two dimensional screen?

So has this computer screen okayed the analogy to the fifth dimension?

So What is this Dimenisonal Archetecture Built On?

3-d: no hidden dimensions 1/R2 in F = G(m1 x m2)(1/R2)
4-d: one “ “ 1/R3 replaces 1/R2
5-d: two “ “ 1/R4 “
6-d: three “ “ 1/R5 “

and so on.

The rule is that for n hidden dimensions the gravitational force falls off with the inverse (n + 2 ) power of the distance R. This implies that as we look at smaller and smaller distances (by banging protons together in particle accelerators) the force of gravity should look stronger and stronger. How much stronger depends on the number of hidden dimensions (and how big they are). There may be enough hidden dimensions to unify the all the forces (including gravity) at an energy level of around 1 TeV (1012 eV), corresponding to around 10-19 meters. This would be a solution to the hierarchy problem of the vast difference in energy scale between the three standard gauge forces and gravity. This is already partly solved by supersymmetry (as mentioned previously); but this new idea would be a more definitive solution--if it were the right solution!

The Microstates of Quantum Gravity

Science is the attempt to make the chaotic diversity of our sense-experience correspond to a logically uniform system of thought

-Albert Einstein

Fig.1: Generally Grouping Order increases the density of objects within a frame of reference, resulting in a more pronounced single object.

To see beyond what we have taken for granted it is important that you understand how we got to the way we are?:) Above, the diagram helps you too orientate these views in accordance with established sciences.

A lot of times if you do not understand the direction the Microstates are taking us, then it would not make much sense in understanding the manifestation of one end of the spectrum, to solids things, to have explored the other end of the spectrum to the greater potential of dimensional perspectives?

John Baez:

Indeed, now that the Standard Model seems to be giving a spectacularly accurate description of all the forces *except* gravity, quantum gravity is one of the few really big mysteries left when it comes to working out the basic laws of physics --- or at least, one of the few *obvious* big mysteries. (As soon as one mystery starts becoming less mysterious, new mysteries tend to become more visible.) But back when particle physics was big business, only a few rather special sorts of people were seriously devoted to quantum gravity. These people seem to be often more than averagely interested in philosophy, often more interested in mathematics (which is one of the few solid handholds in this slippery subject), and always more resigned to the fact that Nature does not reveal all her secrets very readily

It is with great desire that anyone of us would like to find a discription and mode of thinking that would help establish a geometry that would arise from such states, that it becomes very diffiuclt to know if such standings in regards to Loop will directly explain how GR would have ever came to be, while strings has denoted our comprehension of the world the way it is, as being derived from some other state of existance. A Microstate one?

Quantum gravity is the field devoted to finding the microstructure of spacetime. Is space continuous? Does spacetime geometry make sense near the initial singularity? Deep inside a black hole? These are the sort of questions a theory of quantum gravity is expected to answer. The root of our search for the theory is a exploration of the quantum foundations of spacetime. At the very least, quantum gravity ought to describe physics on the smallest possible scales - expected to be 10-35 meters. (Easy to find with dimensional analysis: Build a quantity with the dimensions of length using the speed of light, Planck's constant, and Newton's constant.) Whether quantum gravity will yield a revolutionary shift in quantum theory, general relativity, or both remains to be seen

But let's remember something very important about such microstates and the geometry that Brian Greene is referring too. If you do not have this idea set in mind about how we are directed to those same microstates, what is at odds here between loop and strings for consideration?

This has to be identidified for lay people where such generalizations and comments from those who are trying to build our views, understand well, that they arrive from an idealization that might have had it's spokesperson stand for a extreme, or the other, all the while leaving lay people in the dust, while the sanctity of each area continuously is debated?

Such polarizations of views far two distint from each other is a statement that Smolin reminds us that his area is most defintiely trying as well to speak about qunatum gravity. But of course I must continue on froma statement from Greene here so that sch microstates and its geometry is understood. What is quantum geometry?

The Elegant Universe, by Brian Greene, pg 231 and Pg 232

"But now, almost a century after Einstein's tour-de-force, string theory gives us a quantum-mechanical discription of gravity that, by necessity, modifies general relativity when distances involved become as short as the Planck length. Since Reinmannian geometry is the mathetical core of genral relativity, this means that it too must be modified in order to reflect faithfully the new short distance physics of string theory. Whereas general relativity asserts that the curved properties of the universe are described by Reinmannian geometry, string theory asserts this is true only if we examine the fabric of the universe on large enough scales. On scales as small as planck length a new kind of geometry must emerge, one that aligns with the new physics of string theory. This new geometry is called, quantum geometry."

I am setting up for the next entry. In it I am trying to pierce the veil that is driving such polarizations into there respective veiws, in regard to LQG or Strings respectively. It is troubling indeed that I as a outsider have to look hard and long for why this has materialized? That of course I would like to instigate others to move forward in a most appropriate "dialogos to remember," what each is working on.

Can the mirror world explain the ortho-positronium lifetime puzzle? by R. Foota∗ and S. N. Gninenkob†

We suggest that the discrepant lifetime measurements of ortho-positronium can be explained by ortho-positronium oscillations into mirror ortho-positronium. This explanation can be tested in future vacuum experiments.

Illusions and Miracles

Abbott was certainly aware of these ideas although he did not express any interest in them. However, they must have represented some fascination to him on one level, since they raised from a different viewpoint one of his primary concerns, namely the relationship between illusion and miracle. If what we perceive as a miraculous event, contrary to the laws of nature, later appears as the quite natural manifestation of some reality we had not previously recognized, then we have to re-evaluate the whole situation in the light of the new knowledge. What had appeared to be contradictory and not worthy of belief or acceptance now becomes a set of new facts that can be reconciled with a larger body of knowledge. One lesson from this is that we should not be dependent on miracles as the basis for our beliefs, either in spiritualism or in conventional religions

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The title of this post was derived from the information I had travelled through and highlighted above.

In this picture, the billiard balls are like protons and neutrons, and the sound wave behaves like the graviton.

There are some importmat considerations that must be given here to the analogies that a pool table brings to us, and what the collsion of these two particles might mean in terms of the thrid dimension as sound. But I want to add to this thought following of Peter Steinberg. Peter points us to look forward the new roles movie and television will play for us. Black Hole (2005) (TV)


Peter Steinberg:

The creepy part of these kind of discussions is that one doesn't say that RHIC collisions "create" black holes, but that nucleus-nucleus collisions, and even proton-proton collisions, are in some sense black holes, albeit black holes in some sort of "dual" space which makes the theory easier.

Playfully I have extended the idealization for sound by moving them in concert to a two dimenisional chaldni plate for perspective. This represents the lines of two points that might have demonstrated in the monte carlo effect, in terms of quantum gravity.

For those who have followed the topics I have been examining will notice most definite inferences to dimensions, and how we might have viewed these in todays world of the sciences. It is not always easy to have a complete view here that would have satisfied those who were less then kind to such views. That it should contain some geometrical definition.

For instance, many would have never understood that Maxwell was interested in these higher dimensions, as was Gausss and Riemann. For the general public, our introduction is of course Michio Kaku in Hyperspace. The overlay Michio represents, is a early interest he had that allowed us to flex the mind's capabilities in how we might see the world that intrigued Einstein as he came to recognize what was taking place in using this geometry.

Distinctions of Holographical Sound

With the discovery of sound waves in the CMB, we have entered a new era of precision cosmology in which we can begin to talk with certainty about the origin of structure and the content of matter and energy in the universe.

Wayne Hu

A lot of times is it very hard for me to even concieve of what a dimensional world might look like. So I tend towards defining this priniple in someway that is reduced to tangible realities in configurations.

So lets say that the higher dimensional realities can be associated to sound. Now I am not concerned right now with the physics of sounds, but want to speak about this for a moment in context of the gravitational wave disguised as the graviton, comparative to the phonon, as a representative for sound.

Now of course I would draw some great criticisms here for playing around with to many things, but I have reasons for doing so.

Let me just seal it for now with this.

Here’s an analogy to understand this: imagine that our universe is a two-dimensional pool table, which you look down on from the third spatial dimension. When the billiard balls collide on the table, they scatter into new trajectories across the surface. But we also hear the click of sound as they impact: that’s collision energy being radiated into a third dimension above and beyond the surface. In this picture, the billiard balls are like protons and neutrons, and the sound wave behaves like the graviton.

So you get my point here, lets think about what the idea of the holographical could represent if you want to move your thoughts and into the world of the graviton and the world of dimensions.

Some may not be concerned, by the implications of concepts becoming, but it is vital that such idealizations firmly entrench themselves within the comprehension of what settles in any mind, might be very constructive of a schematic? Is previously describe in those dimensions. Oh boy you say! It's a very simple concept once it is understood.

Since there exist in this four dimensional structure [space-time] no longer any sections which represent "now" objectively, the concepts of happening and becoming are indeed not completely suspended, but yet complicated. It appears therefore more natural to think of physical reality as a four dimensional existence, instead of, as hitherto, the evolution of a three dimensional existence.

The three dimensinal frame is easy to contend with becuase it is easily contrive as a perspective, and one that si rightly so, what ever your perspective?:)


This is part of the difficult is using analogous contexts to describe the potential that vibratory rate might have, and if it settles itself to some zeropoint consideration, that is distinctive of this particle, then might we say the nature of the energy has been discerned, in what it represents. Harmonically, its signature revealled, but what pray tell might the harmonious states reveal of the self, if we move back to the pool table for consideration? What psychological processes have been born in mind that have constructed themself into a ideal, developed in potential reformations of idealizations?



A Chladni plate consist of a flat sheet of metal, usually circular or square, mounted on a central stalk to a sturdy base. When the plate is oscillating in a particular mode of vibration, the nodes and antinodes set up form a complex but symmetrical pattern over its surface. The positions of these nodes and antinodes can be seen by sprinkling sand upon the plates;

But there's more to this for consideration that must be contended with, and for this I have contrive the holographical world to a three diensional frame as a solidifcation of sorts. So I must interject with a bow and a steel plate for this example, knowing full well that I have added the third coordinate by injecting it into the two. Forgive me:) But I wanted to get to the pool table and the balls that collide for obvious reasons. Dimensional reduce to schematics, you might say.


PURPOSE: To show the two-dimensional standing waves on the surface of a square or circular plate.


It never really makes a impression unless you consider the significance of the sound and what is embedded within it that can be reduced to the abstractual coordinates of some math, that we have seen readily available distinction immediately designed?

So there is no arguement about this, the place in a two dimensional surface is easily understood, but if you raised this to a sphere, bubble resonances would have been easily configure to fuller designs(?), or maybe even patterns moved to the third dimension, from the drum. But here we have freed the mind to all kinds of exposures that now spheres as circle on two dimensional plane might be described, as the radius' evolve to larger perspectives. Oh dear Hinton what have you done?:)

Plato's Solids, and the Sound of the Landscape?

Breathing New Life into Existance

Of course there is always caution that must be exercised, so I went looking for a discription of what might be extolled as the following in thread as examples?

A black hole in astrophysics often has two distinct meanings. The first is the black hole in a general relativistic sense - the extreme gravitational case with a singularity in space-time - while the second is a simpler Newtonian approach: a black hole is just a point mass. While both of these meanings are used, often interchangeably, throughout the literature, it is important to remember that no astrophysical observation has yet been made that can distinguish between the two; to date, the Newtonian point mass is all we need. In the future, with better X-ray observations and a detection of gravitational waves, this may change.

I gave two perspectives in the previous two links for consideration. That I wanted to exercise the abiltiy of analogy for a thinking already established. Sometimes I wonder if peope like Sean just want me to dissipate like a blackhole, without really ever forming ability to express myself.:)

One of those, was of the matter distinctions and the other, is of the expenditure of energy. So there are two ideas here, that are quite diverse ends, one being discrete and the other continuous, in all of it's topological considerations?

The previous example seems to be an ole view of what the blackhole would signifiy that runs towards a finality? When it would seem a most appropriate idealization that that the position would allow singularities in matters of earth definition, as stratifications(discrete functions), but of a much more potent revitalization of a collapse to rejuvenation, must be evident away from such views?

So we have these signs for us, of cosmological design and of results, of particle identification.

SOHO Reads the Solar Flares

Measurements of the Sun's oscillations provide a window into the invisible interior of the Sun allowing scientists to infer the structure and composition as well as the rotation and dynamics of the solar interior.

(Extreme ultraviolet Imaging Telescope) images the solar atmosphere at several wavelengths, and therefore, shows solar material at different temperatures. In the images taken at 304 Angstroms the bright material is at 60,000 to 80,000 degrees Kelvin. In those taken at 171, at 1 million degrees. 195 Angstrom images correspond to about 1.5 million Kelvin. 284 Angstrom, to 2 million degrees. The hotter the temperature, the higher you look in the solar atmosphere.


p-Modes

The mysterious source of these oscillations was identified by way of theoretical arguments in 1970 and confirmed by observations in 1975. The oscillations we see on the surface are due to sound waves generated and trapped inside the sun. Sound waves are produced by pressure fluctuations in the turbulent convective motions of the sun's interior. As the waves move outward they reflect off of the sun's surface (the photosphere) where the density and pressure decrease rapidly..

Seeing Beyond the Mass and Density?

Fig.1: Generally Grouping Order increases the density of objects within a frame of reference, resulting in a more pronounced single object.

To see beyond what we have taken for granted it is important that you understand how we got to the way we are. Above the diagram helps you too orientate these views in accordance with established sciences.

A lot of thought have been going through my mind about what is currently being manifested all around us in terms of all the wavelengths that we are inundating to our environment. Television, cell phones, electric grid lines and all the sorts and I am wondering if, we have basically interrupted, the process in nature that is natural, and supplemented it with human kinds fabrications?

Lets just focus on matter distinctions then for now and how such inundations above might have found some comparative views in what nature decided to do for us. In how it density variations would have aligned themselves over the planet during it's formation?

The distribution of mass over the Earth is non-uniform. GRACE will determine this uneven mass distribution by measuring changes in Earth’s gravity field.The term mass refers to the amount of a substance in a given space, and is directly correlated to the density of that substance. For example, a container filled with a more dense material, like granite, has more mass than that same container filled with water. Because mass and density are directly related, there is also a direct relationship between density and gravity. An increase in density results in an increase in mass, and an increase in mass results in an increase in the gravitational force exerted by an object. Density fluctuations on the surface of the Earth and in the underlying mantle are thus reflected invariations in the gravity field.As the twin GRACE satellites orbit the Earth together, these gravity field variations cause infinitesimal changes in the distance between the two. These changes will be measured with unprecedented accuracy by the instruments aboard GRACE leading to a more precise rendering of the gravitational field than has ever been possible to date.

In looking up the word "in variation" you won't have much luck, but in context of the sentence, it forces you to look back towards the center, from the surface. I think this is right?

Quite early in the developing aspects of my research, I was drawn to statement of the above in regards to mass/density, which could have represented to me the vibration inherent, as sound, in how we would determine this mass? Was it unreasonable to look at what nature had bestowed upon us and wonder, that if such sounding processes within the mantle would have allowed us to determine where the structural integrity of the planet would have sufficed in taking accountability of proper building perspectives.

Clementine color ratio composite image of Aristarchus Crater on the Moon. This 42 km diameter crater is located on the corner of the Aristarchus plateau, at 24 N, 47 W. Ejecta from the plateau is visible as the blue material at the upper left (northwest), while material excavated from the Oceanus Procellarum area is the reddish color to the lower right (southeast). The colors in this image can be used to ascertain compositional properties of the materials making up the deep strata of these two regions. (Clementine, USGS slide 11)

Preparing the mind for information about gravitational fields were extremely important to me because if gravity discernment in terms of the planets density fluctuations were evident from mass/ density consideration, then how would we be certain that such information emitted from events, which shake the space time fabric would not have sounded for us a response distinctive about it's particle identification. Was there some layering aspect designed within gravitational consideration that would have said the density of the material would have been found, a center first must be of iron?

As one of the fields which obey the general inverse square law, the gravity field can be put in the form shown above, showing that the acceleration of gravity, g, is an expression of the intensity of the gravity field.

So in the ideal centricity of elements such gravitational consideration would have aligned the material in a appropriate expression from the densest of matter distinctions to the very light, would have made it seem, that such resonances based in sound would say, that because it is dense here at the iron core, the sound value would be very distinctive from the vibrational freedom at the surface?

Density measure(comparative to other things) of sound, would be nice. Which leads me to the ideals of Webber and his aluminum bars.

Radar echos from Titan's surface



This recording was produced by converting into audible sounds some of the radar echoes received by Huygens during the last few kilometres of its descent onto Titan. As the probe approaches the ground, both the pitch and intensity increase. Scientists will use intensity of the echoes to speculate about the nature of the surface.

Calming the Fears by Making Aware

If we discover the Planck scale near the TeV scale, this will represent the most profound discovery in physics in a century, and black hole production will be the most spectacular evidence of that new discovery

It is important to understand where this research has lead some of us to looking. We mentioned Steve Giddings earlier and Lubos has provide some of this information that helps to further enlighten. Because there are fundamental processes unfolding in high energy considrations it is well that we are aware of the encounters that can come forward in the production of these particles?

Published on KurzweilAI.net June 26, 2003.

Parallel worlds

What do you think of Sir Martin Rees' concerns about the risk of creating black holes on Earth in his book, Our Final Hour?
Michio Kaku:

I haven't read his book, but perhaps Sir Martin Rees is referring to many press reports that claim that the Earth may be swallowed up by a black hole created by our machines. This started with a letter to the editor in Scientific American asking whether the RHIC accelerator in Brookhaven, Long Island, will create a black hole which will swallow up the earth. This was then picked up by the Sunday London Times who then splashed it on the international wire services, and all of a sudden, we physicists were deluged with hundreds of emails and telegrams asking whether or not we are going to destroy the world when we create a black hole in Long Island.

So the very idea that creation of blackholes, might have seemed somewhat strange then what is postulated in terms of being possible here, would help to further enlighten? We have been directed already to what is available around us in our new perspective views. So we have advanced here:)We do not overwhelm cosmological idealizations, with "false ideological statements" about it's uselessness.

The Quantum Universe

The LHC and a Linear Collider will address many questions about extra dimensions: How many extra dimensions are there? What are their shapes and sizes? How are they hidden? What are the new particles associated with extra dimensions? Through the production of new particles that move in the extra space, the LHC will have direct sensitivity to extra dimensions 10 billion times smaller than the size of an atom. A Linear Collider would determine the number, size and shape of extra dimensions through their small effects on particle masses and interactions. There is also a chance that, due to the existence of extra dimensions, microscopic black holes may be detected at the LHC or in the highest energy cosmic rays.

We can now see, where such applications, have further been developed. It was somebody else's being short sighted, that one realizes that there is a particle concern to how we percieve the nature of our universe:)



Understanding Matter, Energy, Space and Time:The Case for the e+ e- Linear Collider

Other ideas to solve the hierarchy problem postulate extra spatial dimensions beyond the three that we know, or new particles at the several TeV scale. If such ideas are correct, we again expect observable consequences at the LHC and the LC and a synergy will exist between them. For example, the LC and LHC combined can deduce both the size and number of extra dimensions. The new states expected from extra dimensions could perhaps be sensed directly at the LHC, but the precision measurements at the LC can measure their effects even for particles well above the range of the direct measurements.

So ever closer now one must pay attention to what does "not make sense" and we find that tidbits being left around actually if perceptive enough, will help you to explore other things. See, if I am told once and you read, the depth of perception will never make sense if you don't follow those leads and Lubos gave us one to consider:)

Peter SteinbergThe creepy part of these kind of discussions is that one doesn't say that RHIC collisions "create" black holes, but that nucleus-nucleus collisions, and even proton-proton collisions, are in some sense black holes, albeit black holes in some sort of "dual" space which makes the theory easier.




And if you are even more thick skinned, what focused can be developed from that to here. So if you do not understand the question, it is obvious you have not followed what was put before you for consideration. Hence Crackpotism or senseless?

It is a easy hand, under chin contemplating, playing games like rock, paper, or scissors ( that one can wave off) as to what is not understood as being senseless.

It is a better hand that can point up with the finger(heaven) or a open hand(ground) to say, look around you?:)We would like to develope these concepts further, under the Arche. We may be old personalities, but we still like to discuss the nature of the universe.:)

Education, Now Stimulates Creativity:-)

The nice thing about good educators is the resource that they can help point lay people to to encourage exploration and thought provocation. It is not to nice to have controls place on the the ability of resource searchers to be limited by conceptual hangups that have stagnated educational valubales from ever seeing the light of day. So we are once again happy here under Plato's Arch, that we can develope the ideas necessary, from full fledged thinking human beings and not of the controlled puppets of the choir.

Galaxy NGC 596, a highly structured galaxy characterized by pronounced twisting and by ripples in the outer regions. (Credit Astrophysics Institute, Potsdam, Extragalactic Astrophysics Group)

Now I know the topological considerations are supposed to have been dispelled by Max Tegmark and his group, but I can't help but see the relationship of a valuable insight of Greene's that manifests, as you look at this image and consider a Genus figure for examination. This playful image of Greene's is very much thought provoking inthat it ask that we exercise the brain's function as to how such a comment could have been made. Of course, I have to go looking for it.

But let me talk about it first, without one actually hvaing seen what I mean. I know it is better to let others develope there visonary capabilties, that I will only speak briefly on it.

Koans Simulate Crossroads

Why would you want to kill this in yourself?

Part of the idea here is to create a wall of resistance, where such confrontation can easily set things into motion that need to be expressed. That should be. It's indeed a dynamical quality that such oscillations in "being" could have swung backward and forward, and all of a sudden, such resonance built up, that change is soon initiated.

Now, never understandng these dynamics and all the time being part of it, action soon precludes this change that is necessary for opportuities to make themself known. But I won't get to that point , but the one I originally wanted made clear of Greene's, before I present another image is to solidify visionary capabilties of those who are developing the expressions within themself.

it turns out that within string theory ... there is actually an identification, we believe, between the very tiny and the very huge. So it turns out that if you, for instance, take a dimension - imagine its in a circle, imagine its really huge - and then you make it smaller and smaller and smaller, the equations tell us that if you make it smaller than a certain length (its about 10-33 centimeters, the so called 'Planck Length') ... its exactly identical, from the point of view of physical properties, as making the circle larger. So you're trying to squeeze it smaller, but actually in reality your efforts are being turned around by the theory and you're actually making the dimension larger. So in some sense, if you try to squeeze it all the way down to zero size, it would be the same as making it infinitely big. ... (CSPAN Archives Videotape #125054) Brian Greene

Now I don't have to remind people here, what image is manifested because then I would have to go into a long spiel about what I see, as opposed to what you see. So yes, instead of me telling you. What do you see? Do you know something about topological considerations and when it is implored? Why would I insinuate a Genus Figure for contemplation?

Through my exchanges with people over time, it will be evident for some, where I am headed. For a vast majority, inklings of insight developed through prodding for the first time? If we are to consider the deeper parts of ourselves and the deepest parts of the universe, what could have manifested, and we ask a lot of questions about the universe, and how matter came into being?

But here and very suttlely I have wondered, that my own mind is being exposed to concepts, that I ask what is it that we are neglecting? Without understanding, that this manifestaion might be as simple as a play on words, about the IRAq war on Lubos site, to understand, the extension of thought capabilties imploring current thought processes, about manifestation of this energy from within. To what, could have manifested from the beginning of this universe? A lot goes on, and in a systematic way, we are part of this expresssion, and are capable, of being part of that expression:)

But it's more then just accepting the visionary capabilties of our mind, but of stretching is capabilties as well, into exploring the regions of no man's land where only the theore/mathe...ticions go.:)



So I'll present one more for consideration and this should surely convince some who know for certain? What I have espoused through a long journey, to have come to my own crossroads in life. To say, it had all been worth it to see such induction and deductions, as part of the extension necessary of bringing forth the silent majority who fell asleep at there televisions sets, like I tend to do:)

Our brains are more capable of the much finer things, that it's time I formulated a new path for consideration. Part of it, has already been revealled in what you can do, that I intend to do as well.

KK: Kaluza Klein Theory

What is it?

KK Tower



Now part of the problem of visualization here is what and how the cosmic string could have developed. Now, determination of the various sizing of these strings would have had to incorporate the value of the energy involved, in terms of 1r and using the KK tower, such classifcations help in this direction.

Kaluza-Klein theory is a model which unifies classical gravity and electromagnetism. It was discovered by the mathematician Theodor Kaluza that if general relativity is extended to a five-dimensional spacetime, the equations can be separated out into ordinary four-dimensional gravitation plus an extra set, which is equivalent to Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic field, plus an extra scalar field known as the "dilaton". Oskar Klein proposed that the fourth spatial dimension is curled up with a very small radius, i.e. that a particle moving a short distance along that axis would return to where it began. The distance a particle can travel before reaching its initial position is said to be the size of the dimension. This, in fact, also gives rise to quantization of charge, as waves directed along a finite axis can only occupy discrete frequencies.

Kaluza-Klein theory can be extended to cover the other fundamental forces - namely, the weak and strong nuclear forces - but a straightforward approach, if done using an odd dimensional manifold runs into difficulties involving chirality. The problem is that all neutrinos appear to be left-handed, meaning that they are spinning in the direction of the fingers of the left hand when they are moving in the direction of the thumb. All anti-neutrinos appear to be right-handed. Somehow particle reactions are asymmetric when it comes to spin and it is not straightforward to build this into a Kaluza-Klein theory since the extra dimensions of physical space are symmetric with respect to left-hand spinning and r-hand spinning particles.

So in order to get to the summation, views of hidden dimenisons had to be mathematically described for us, so a generalization here would suffice in the following diagram.



Now, not having the room to explain, and having linked previous information on extension of KK theory, I wondered about the following. If we understood well, the leading perspective that lead us through to the dynamical realizations, then the road Gauss and Reimann lead us to would help us to understand the visualization materializing by the calorimeter disciptions of each energy placement harmonically describing each particle's value?

Electromagnetic Calorimeter of the Phenix


If one understood well enough about the direction of discernation of early universe consideration and microstates, then such questions would have been of value in the ideas of topological considerations?

Here again I would point to the Glast determinations and of how we percieve these comological interactions, that continue to be built mathematically? Cosmic string developement would have shown energy valuation that would have continued to expand if we see this as a continous fucntion of particle identification? The matter states would have become distinctive inregards to the weak field manifestations represented in the comsological functions of our universe now?

We would have had to learn to map topological considerations, and the only way is how we see the calorimeter is used?

Pay it Forward: A Educational Stance?

The Changing Face of Education

Now that the comments section has been closed to some, it will be nice to see what he thinks on his own without others interfering. If you put yourself out there, be prepared to stand by what you say and refute why such a topic of strings is not appropriate, then having a choir sing it for you.:-)

Sometimes I think that those in "opposition to strings" might feel better, if the world of triangular figures would have found greater sympathy toward the quantum gravity worlds perceptions?

Smolin to me, is a good educator, when he wrote three roads to quantum gravity. Should he be smeared for publicly doing well(monetarily rewarded)? To me he is a good educator of the public, as to the roads theoretics is going? Greene is another, that is slammed for helping the public understand these issues?

As a educator(people who pay forward what they learn) it has not become very clear to me that I should abort learning string perspective because of obstinate remarks and what reasons, why this should be so. I have understood strings to be a model of comprehension, just as my solids were once, for other minds to consider, in a process unfolding.:-)

Changing the Dynamics

Because one man might do nothing for money, does not make him anymore appealing because he saids so. It would mean more to me if he was silent about it. If he is in a public position to teach a better understanding, but all you ever heard is spouting of the "wonderful world of strings", is this supposed to be the good educator he might wants us to see, or does he explain, why this road is better then this other road? :)Smolin was never opinionated here is his presentation, but presented the views from the angles of percpetion he himself garnered from a synopsis of the roads leading to quantum gravity.

Anyway to regain his sense of control, deletion is always a good way to go, or transference to another medium is always a good option. I have noticed some universities have different formats, that might protect the students, from roving maniacs(commentors that might really want to understand) if that is the educators concern:)

It would appear that those who cater to the idealization this educator, might survive deletion, as long as they tote the ideal of hatred( concepts that would lead others to reject string theory) then of course, this becomes suitable. A fine marker to follow for sure.:-)Adustments have been made.

Now of course let's move on from this with the highest ideals that education has to offer, and not some private view that would hurt more students then the ones a commentor might have. After all if you want to live by this rule, one should apply it to themself. :-)

On Blogging

So, what is the role of blogs going to be in the future of science? I believe the blogs are going to speed up the internationalization of science, with positive effects for both American and foreign scientists. What expert science bloggers are doing right now and will do even more in the future is take expensive information and make it free. People with access to expensive journal subscriptions will link, excerpt, and comment on technical papers as soon as they are published, thus making them available to scientists in small schools, in foreign countries, and, importantly to, gasp - blasphemy! - amateur scientists. That is exactly what I intend to do with Circadiana. My scientific colleagues in Algeria, Argentina and Poland can contact me (or each other) and start fruitfull collaborations, not just read an occasional paper two months after its publication.

Back to regular programming.

Part of the efforts here within this blog, is to see the developement of comprehension, that would have eluded most of the general public. I know it would be minor in it's contribution, compared to the likes of people like Greene or Smolin, and least I forget to mention, Kaku, who has been extremely supportive. Leading us as well, to this comprehension of dimensional interpretation, that even fewer have come to understand through the developement of the physics of geometric approach.

Below is a link that raises the question of how three dimensional views could be elevated, to include time references, coordinated much like our three standard dimensions to incorporate a higher dimensional valuations. Now having a coordinated frame of reference, it seemed quite familiar to me that such collsions in the walls of these gold ions would ask us to see this interaction in a different light.

If alteration of KK theory was possible then such valutions to dimensional interpretations might have revealled topological considerations, that would oversee all understandings of such developements? We were speaking about high energy valuation here in terms of photon gluon considerations. I do not know if this is right or not, but such visualization of dynamical qualties had to be directed to the royal roads leading to Klein's Ordering of Geometries?

Gravity and strings


This is a broad-brush review of how string theory addresses several important questions of gravitational physics. The problem of non-renormalizability is first reviewed, followed by introduction of string theory as an ultraviolet-finite theory of gravity. String theory's successes also include predicting both gauge theory and fermions. The difficulty of extra dimensions becomes a possible virtue, when one notes that these lead to mechanisms to explain fermion generations, as well as a means to break the large gauge symmetries of string theory. Finally, a long standing problem of string theory, that of fixing the size and shape of the extra dimensions, has recently been addressed and may shed light on the origin of the cosmological constant, the ultimate fate of our universe, as well as the question of why gravity_is_ so weak.

Domains walls and Interconnecting Loops

It seems wellness is coming back in full force:) so I thought I would take some advice. This paragraph below italizied, and the one related to Chen for consideration, in terms of the abtract world that topological consideration, might have have found expression? If supersymmetrical realites are ever reached, looking backwards to the origins of the universe, what does it mean if you do not consider the high energy of any situation? Is there no mathematical world there?


As a result, the gluons inside one gold ion appear to the other ion as a ‘gluonic wall’ traveling near the speed of light. At very high energies, the density of the gluons in this wall is seen to increase greatly. Unlike the quark-gluon plasma produced in the collision of such walls, the color glass condensate describes the walls themselves, and is an intrinsic property of the particles that can only be observed under high-energy conditions such as those at RHIC.

A lot of times when you move to consider the higher forms of a geometry that leads to topological considerations, you wonder if there are other mechanisms availiable to help one move within these abstractions. So by looking at current experiments in the gold ions collisions something caught my attention that I wondered abou,t in current topological structure work and summing over all topologies to have found it's place of value?

The simple fact is that causal effects in the early universe can only propagate (as at any time) as the speed of light c. This means that at a time t, regions of the universe separated by more than a distance d=ct can know nothing about each other. In a symmetry breaking phase transition, different regions of the universe will choose to fall into different minima in the set of possible states (this set is known to mathematicians as the vacuum manifold). Topological defects are precisely the `boundaries' between these regions with different choices of minima, and their formation is therefore an inevitable consequence of the fact that different regions cannot agree on their choices.

So having understood the early universe as microstates, its important that if such opportunities in the physics bring forth other possibilties, then maybe predictive features are viable alternatives to what topological structures we are using?



Now as I said it is highly abstract for obvious reasons, and one cannot forget the royal road that lead to this dimensional perspective that seem to fall by the wayside(salem witch trials) when speculation is prodded in landscape issues and blaspheming of the branes theories.:)



So having understood early cosmological valuations in high energy considerations, are also cosmological questions, I wonder then how such formations could have ever multiplied into a cohesive structure, we have around us now? So the model that was most helpful for me was considered.

Modified Kaluza-Klein Theory, Quantum Hidden Variables and 3-Dimensional Time


In this paper, the basic quantum field equations of free particle with 0-spin, 1-spin (for case of massless and mass $>$ 0) and 1/2 spin are derived from Einstein equations under modified Kaluza-Klein metric, it shows that the equations of quantum fields can be interpreted as pure geometry properties of curved higher-dimensional time-space . One will find that if we interpret the 5th and 6th dimension as ``extra'' time dimension, the particle's wave-function can be naturally interpreted as a single particle moving along geodesic path in 6-dimensional modified Kaluza-Klein time-space. As the result, the fundamental physical effect of quantum theory such as double-slit interference of single particle, statistical effect of wave-function, wave-packet collapse, spin, Bose-Einstein condensation, Pauli exclusive principle can be interpreted as ``classical'' behavior in new time-space. In the last part of this paper, we will coupling field equations of 0-spin, 1-spin and 1/2-spin particles with gravity equations.



Using so much information(imagine strings as a expression of a much different world harmonically pitched) to try and piece together a picture of the universe, is not always easy. Gerard Hooft's points about using this in computer manifestations, is a resonable enough problem that is understood, that of course LIGO translation and Seti mode of operandi, helps us with all these tiny bits of information.

The Color Glass Condensate

Search for a new state of matter called the Quark-Gluon Plasma, which is believed to be the state of matter existing in the universe shortly after the Big Bang. If it is found, then measure its properties.

Study matter under extreme conditions of temperature and pressure.

Learn where the proton gets its spin.

Study the most basic building blocks of nature and the forces that govern them.

Conclusions: Overwhelming empirical evidence for a new form of matter sQGP with unexpected properties

Is a term that is new to me and since it has been brought by Lubos in regards to The RHIC fireball as a dual black hole, and other issues in regards to gluon consideration as blackhole radiation. I would like to comprehend this better as to the direction string research is going:)

Background on color glass condensate

Color glass condensate is another extreme condition of matter that some theoretical physicists postulate exists inside two gold ions about to collide at very high energy in RHIC. According to Einstein’s theory of relativity, a high-energy particle appears Lorentz contracted, or compressed, along its direction of motion. As a result, the gluons inside one gold ion appear to the other ion as a ‘gluonic wall’ traveling near the speed of light. At very high energies, the density of the gluons in this wall is seen to increase greatly. Unlike the quark-gluon plasma produced in the collision of such walls, the color glass condensate describes the walls themselves, and is an intrinsic property of the particles that can only be observed under high-energy conditions such as those at RHIC.

To me Peter and Lubos are getting close on regards to the issue of the Shakespearean Quandry of to B^-e or not the be⁺, and as a artistic rendition? What value could we have ever sought from the minute interactions, photon gluon interaction, that might be demonstrated from such fine dimensional thinking of the issues involve at such perceptive levels of existance? How is this possible?



Our focus is carefully being directed to the areas of collision for introspection and consideration.

Tiny Blackholes in Cosmic Observations?

205th Meeting of the American Astronomical Society 9-13 January 2005 -- San Diego, CA

I am kind of interested to find further information on how microstate blackholes might have been generated and looking at the concentration of minds, I wonder if this topic was brought up, or will be brought up?

The Pierre Auger Observatory, currently being constructed in Argentina to study cosmic rays, could examine the structure of spacetime itself, say physicists in the United States.

If, as some suspect, the Universe contains invisible, extra dimensions, then cosmic rays that hit the atmosphere will produce tiny black holes. These black holes should be numerous enough for the observatory to detect, say Jonathan Feng and Alfred Shapere of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, Massachusetts1.

The observatory will consist of two 3,000-square-kilometre arrays - one in Argentina, one somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere - each containing 1,600 particle detectors. Scheduled for completion by 2004, scientists hope that the equipment will help to solve the mystery of cosmic rays. These rays consist of extremely high-energy particles that stream into the Earth's atmosphere from space - from where, exactly, no one knows.

Lubos has mention Steve Giddings and I have also mentioned himearlier inmy blogs on the topic of Mini blackholes as well.

In theories with large extra dimensions at sub-millimetre distances, for example, and/or high energies of the order of 1 TeV or more, gravity may become a strong force. Thus, hypothetically, the energy required to produce black holes is well within the range of the LHC, making it a "black-hole factory". As Stephen Hawking has taught us, these mini black holes would be extremely hot little objects that would dissipate all their energy very rapidly by emitting radiation and particles before they wink out of existence. The properties of the Hawking radiation could tell us about the properties of the extra spatial dimensions, although there are still uncertainties in the theory at this stage. Nevertheless, astroparticle and collider experiments should provide useful input to the theoretical work in this area. Indeed, the signatures are expected to be spectacular, with very high multiplicity events and a large fraction of the beam energy converted into transverse energy, mostly in the form of quarks/gluons (jets) and leptons, with a production rate at the LHC rising as high as 1 Hz. An example of what a typical black-hole event would look like in the ATLAS detector is shown in figure 2.
If mini black holes can be produced in high-energy particle interactions, they may first be observed in high-energy cosmic-ray neutrino interactions in the atmosphere. Jonathan Feng of the University of California at Irvine and MIT, and Alfred Shapere of the University of Kentucky have calculated that the Auger cosmic-ray observatory, which will combine a 6000 km2 extended air-shower array backed up by fluorescence detectors trained on the sky, could record tens to hundreds of showers from black holes before the LHC turns on in 2007.

Cosmic rays in ATLAS
The flux of cosmic ray muons through the ATLAS cavern can be utilized as a tool to "shake down" the ATLAS detector prior to data taking in 2007.

Additionally, a thorough understanding of the cosmic ray flux in ATLAS will be of great use in the study of cosmic ray backgrounds to the search for rare new physics processes in ATLAS.

The Emergence of Time, What Lies Beneath?

The intuitive classical space-time picture breaks down in quantum gravity, which makes a comparison and the development of semiclassical techniques quite complicated.

Taken in context of how supersymmetrical levels could have ever been reached, is really a wonderful thnng to consider. If singularities were to be devised in methods that would experiementally bring forth blackholes at the microstates. Then what value is derived from learning about high energy and the levels we must go through to speak about these singularities?

From classical discritpion of GR to the understanding that supergravity could have ever been devised as a method to live in supersymmetrical worlds, would have been a challenge indeed, and we might ask where would time would begin, and what was below time?

The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago. The beginning of real time, would have been a singularity, at which the laws of physics would have broken down. Nevertheless, the way the universe began would have been determined by the laws of physics, if the universe satisfied the no boundary condition. This says that in the imaginary time direction, space-time is finite in extent, but doesn't have any boundary or edge. The predictions of the no boundary proposal seem to agree with observation. The no boundary hypothesis also predicts that the universe will eventually collapse again. However, the contracting phase, will not have the opposite arrow of time, to the expanding phase. So we will keep on getting older, and we won't return to our youth. Because time is not going to go backwards, I think I better stop now.

by Stephen Hawking

It becomes very difficult then for anyone to accept that Robert Laughlin might have "wondered" about about condensed matter physics to have wonder what the building blocks shall be at such levels? That he might have wanted to stay to discrete structures for explanations as far as he could tell experimentally?:)


Likewise, if the very fabric of the Universe is in a quantum-critical state, then the stuff that underlies reality is totally irrelevant-it could be anything, says Laughlin. Even if the string theorists show that strings can give rise to the matter and natural laws we know, they won't have proved that strings are the answer-merely one of the infinite number of possible answers. It could as well be pool balls or Lego bricks or drunk sergeant majors.

You see this is okay. That one can direct their attention to such infrastructures to ask, what the ultimate building block shall be, that we constantly refocus our mind to the finer things(abstract mathematical forays into these fine building blocks), only to find, we have progress well into the cosmological view, of such microstates?

"The path integral is taken over metrics of all possible topologies, that fit in between the surfaces. There is the trivial topology, the initial surface, cross the time interval. Then there are the non trivial topologies, all the other possible topologies. The trivial topology can be foliated by a family of surfaces of constant time. The path integral over all metrics with trivial topology, can be treated canonically by time slicing. In other words, the time evolution
(including gravity) will be generated by a Hamiltonian. This will give a unitary mapping from the initial surface, to the final.
"

But to follow is this what Peter Woit thinks?

Peter Woit said--?His argument is in Euclidean quantum gravity, which he describes as "the only sane way to do quantum gravity non-perturbatively", something which some might disagree with. What he seems to be arguing is that, while it is true you get information loss in the path integral over metrics on a fixed non-trivial black hole topology, you really need to sum over all topologies. When you do this you get unitary evolution from the trivial (no black hole) topology and the non-trivial topologies give contributions that are independent of the initial state and don't contribute to the initial-final state amplitude.

I guess what this means is that he is claiming that, sure, if you knew you really had a black hole, then there would be a problem with unitarity, but in quantum gravity you don't ever really know that you have a black hole, you also have to take into account the amplitude for not actually having one and when you properly do this the unitarity problem goes away.

You must accept my humble apologies, but to have been given these directions(quotes analogies in reference links and statements, from both Lubos Motl and Peter Woit, I wonder about the difference in their interpretations of the mathematics they are using? Are they so fundamntally at odds with each other, that they do not realize that they are working very close in their idealizations?

Quantum Gravity at Planck Length

It was necessary to bring some of this infomration here while things are getting sorted out elsewhere.

6.4 Spacetime Topology Change
by Joseph Polchinski

This subsection is not directly related to black holes, but deals with another exotic question in quantum gravity. Gravity is due to the bending of spacetime. It is an old question, whether spacetime can not only bend but break: does its topology as well as its geometry evolve in time?

Again, string theory provides the tools to answer this question. The answer is ‘yes’ — under certain controlled circumstances the geometry can evolve as shown schematically in figure 9.

Posted below is Steinhardt informtaion, and his cyclical universe have been highlighted for consideration. The informtaion about the Planck satelitte ready for deployment in 2007 should open our eyes to a few of the issues that are evolving.

Primordial Gravitational Waves

Although I have designated the title above, I want to add current trends for future observations by speaking to this one first.

It is sometimes evident that such comments made by Peter Woit would have to have enormous amounts of data to back up the reasons why research should not be moving in the direction it is. I do not have alot of time right now so I will just put up this for now.

Planck was selected as the third Medium-Sized Mission (M3) of ESA's Horizon 2000 Scientific Programme, and is today part of its Cosmic Vision Programme. It is designed to image the anisotropies of the Cosmic Background Radiation Field over the whole sky, with unprecedented sensitivity and angular resolution. Planck will provide a major source of information relevant to several cosmological and astrophysical issues, such as testing theories of the early universe and the origin of cosmic structure. The scientific development of the mission is directed by the Planck Science Team.

How would such information force us to consider the subject of gravitational wave generation in microscopic avenues, and all of a sudden dismiss quantum geometrical considerations as revealled on topological forms? Would it?

Max Tegmark and others, current working in this area, will have been provided with a deeper look at what they have been postulating in regards to "topological forms," in the cosmos. As many know, this relationship is part of my attempts at comprehension of what happens at such quantum levels and why quantum geometry is not relevant to cosmolgical scales for considerations.

For such comments, that would have implied Higher Dimensions to be revealled in the Spacetime Fabric, would have been verified? But like the Cyclical Universe, I could go the way of any model that does not follow the current established trends of thinking.:)It would be consequential, if such speaking is not backed up, but as we know any ear that is lent to discussion, the reasons why before hand, would always be a important one to consider?:)

Light Humour From Another

When your feeling all alone in the dimensional world, think about Homer's triumph:)

Well, it should be obvious to even the most dim-witted individual who holds an advanced degree in hyperbolic topology, that Homer Simpson has stumbled into... the third dimension.

.....and tongued tied, as to how you would explain yourself to others, on these higher dimenisonal realizations, just recognize you are not alone:)


No, you can't play with it; you won't
enjoy it on as many levels as I do

GR Reduced From Higher Dimensions?

Earlier in my blog, I posted a subject called the Classical discription of the quantum world

Now it was a big leap of faith on my part that I saw these events as distilliations of a larger and more dynamic universe that cooled to proportionl views that I had related in that post. But now, this might be rejected based on the work done on this cosmological observatory, that is not mirrored from a larger proportional view of that early universe? What does this mean?

If planck epoch arises to expansitory features revealled in our cosmos, then, early universe detection is a valid assumption of this earlier design?

That the comments posted by Arun in the blog entitled crackpotism, contrasted to my statement, has much more discussion behind it to consider.

Arun said: So, string theory embraces both General Relativity and not-General Relativity!!!! In other words, string theory says nothing definite.

Plato said: And about Arun's comment about GR. Phase transitions would be reduced holographcally from higher dimensions( the standard model would have been decribed from earlier states ), would finally show up there?:)

If one did not recognize earlier states of existence and just accepted the cosmological playground sight seen, it always existed in this form then:) That is, if we take the standard set by observation:)

I for one thought, topological considerations would have been formulated from earlier cosmic designs, but apparently this might have been subject to scrutiny, and thought out. Rejection of the soccer ball design as well?:)

So I guess I'll get to it here and post the following for consideration.

The significance of the largest scale CMB fluctuations in WMAP:

Now of course, we must remember that the way in which I am looking at this universe is that we see it in it's earlier state, as spread out(higher dimensional attributes), much like we see the discription of the early computerize version shown here .

Computerized Model of Andrey Kravtsov.

The current state of the universe, globally, would be a derived from some view point that represents the current shape and size of the universe. Represents its current age, to design? At least, this is what would have been derived from the sources I am considering in light of the assumption I am making, has some realistic version, that would hold to such spherical considerations. Hold on Peter Woit:)



So such a point although subject to these phase transitions are in the end understood on the other end of the scale of consideration from that early universe to today. To what passes us by? We are attempting to measure at this point in time, what "rings true" through all of us?:)

Induction and Deduction

Our attempt to justify our beliefs logically by giving reasons results in the "regress of reasons." Since any reason can be further challenged, the regress of reasons threatens to be an infinite regress. However, since this is impossible, there must be reasons for which there do not need to be further reasons: reasons which do not need to be proven. By definition, these are "first principles." The "Problem of First Principles" arises when we ask Why such reasons would not need to be proven. Aristotle's answer was that first principles do not need to be proven because they are self-evident, i.e. they are known to be true simply by understanding them.

The interesting thing about developing vision is of course recognizing the framework with which you will make deductions about the world, and the structures with which you will deal. If held to pre-establish routes, and leading indicators of geometrical design, leading to higher dimensional attributes revealled in topological discourses, then such vision would have required the mind accept higher dimensional attributes first?



Often the very idea, of distilling information, inductively looking at the object of consideration, would have been like sitting in front of a picture and realizing that the very ideas about inductive and deductive reasoning would have made them self know in some way or form. So for me, recognizing the piecing that has gone on with the royal road to geometry, Plato's discourse with Aristotle at the top of this web page, part of deciphering this global village of ideas, is to soak up the picture of Rapheal.

So what I have done here is brought together another idea(the arch), in the comprehension of this picture for consideration. That in model comprehension( and just for the sake of it accept string theory for a moment) it is always much easier to accept the picture as it is, without really understanding the deeper implications of it.

Now in my research, and looking at what happened with Lenny Susskind and the work he was doing, such a inspirative insight of the string vibration in his head would have been a recognition and culmination of other things, before, this image materialized in his brain.

If we understand the topic of this thread, inductive and deductive modelling would have helped one recognize that the model acceptance would have immediately forced the mind to consider inductive and deductive features, as topological expressions of the roads leading from this geometry of expression to higher dimensinal attributes no less then what John Baez describes for us in using Platonic Solids for comparison.



In order to get to what is self-evident, such realizations of higher dimensions would have asked the mind to exercise it's ability to move in these higher abstract worlds, by looking at differents model comprehensions and acceptances, to prepare it for extensions and realizations of those same realities we live in?

"We hold these truths to be self evident"

Should have been emblazoned on the American mind, and the realization of the way in which such truths once accepted, help us to move on and further develope the models we would want of the society as recognition of this whole picture. Simplified, such realizations signify the grokking and acceptance of the model and the ability, to play with other avenues of consideration, and in this case, strings as an example.

It could be Loop or Penrose as well and recognition, that the standard model is part and parcel of the whole view. One would have recognized this if they had understood that to go beyond the standard model and include gravity they had already bypassed this idea and formulation in a conprehensive whole.

From the planck epoch in cosmological understanding, grand unification, made this implicite in the design as part of a comprehensive whole of the dimensional significance of the developing cosmos.

Roger Penrose and the Quanglement

Order and Chaos, by Escher
(lithograph, 1950)



I will give Peter Woit and the group time to formulate the topic that should present itself shortly on their blog gathering. How the integration and question presented by Penrose was very helpful in how we digest early universe information. I will speak more on that, and universe clumping then.




Penroses Influence on Escher

During the later half of the 1950’s, Maurits Cornelius Escher received a letter from Lionel and Roger Penrose. This letter consisted of a report by the father and son team that focused on impossible figures. By this time, Escher had begun exploring impossible worlds. He had recently produced the lithograph Belvedere based on the “rib-cube,” an impossible cuboid named by Escher (Teuber 161). However, the letter by the Penroses, which would later appear in the British Journal of Psychology, enlightened Escher to two new impossible objects; the Penrose triangle and the Penrose stairs. With these figures, Escher went on to create further impossible worlds that break the laws of three-dimensional space, mystify one’s mind, and give a window to the artist heart.

If one does not comprehend the way in which the images can set up the mind for other things, then it becomes extremely difficult for it to accept any other models for consideration in the mathematical realm leading to issues of quantum gravity?